Wilwood front brake kit need new rims

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I bought the Wilwood front brake kit 14015459 and it comes with new hub that is bigger than stock so my Steel rims wont fit. Currently 5x4 small bolt pattern. The stock center hub is around 2 1/2 and I need 3.06 to get wheel on car. I will switch it to the big bolt pattern of 5x4.5.
Anybody else run into this? What wheels did you guys put on it?
 
I have those Wilwoods on my '70 duster I have Centerline auto drag 15x4 5x4 bolt pattern..
 
steve2724 said:
I bought the Wilwood front brake kit 14015459 and it comes with new hub that is bigger than stock so my Steel rims wont fit. Currently 5x4 small bolt pattern. The stock center hub is around 2 1/2 and I need 3.06 to get wheel on car. I will switch it to the big bolt pattern of 5x4.5.
Anybody else run into this? What wheels did you guys put on it?
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Everyone that uses the wilwood kits runs into this problem now, the hub register on their brakes is gigantic since a redesign 5-6 years ago. None of the factory wheels can be used. None of the factory reproduction wheels can be used. In fact, a lot of aftermarket wheels can’t be used because of that hub bore. And that’s in either bolt pattern.

There’s only a few options for wheels, those godawful centerlines, Cragar S/S, and a couple of the offerings from American Racing. And that’s in the 5x4.5” pattern. The SBP cragars, US Mag and American Racing wheels in 5x4” won’t fit as the hub bore is smaller than on the 5x4.5” version.

I honestly don’t know why Wilwood still offers the 5x4” pattern on that kit, it’s basically false advertising. People buy the kit for the 5x4” bolt pattern option so they don’t have to buy new wheels, but unless they have 1 of like 3 aftermarket wheels they’ll have to buy new wheels anyway.


stroked340 said:
I have those Wilwoods on my '70 duster I have Centerline auto drag 15x4 5x4 bolt pattern..
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That’s not even an off the shelf wheel anymore, they’d have to be custom ordered now to get the 5x4” pattern.
 
stroked340 said:
Someone fart??..
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Such useful information as always from you!

Seriously bud, what good is keeping the SBP if you can't keep the wheels you already have? If you have to buy new wheels anyway because the Wilwood hub diameter is too large, there's no good reason to keep the SBP. And the SBP being offered is one of the major reasons anyone looks at those brakes to begin with. If you plan to go BBP, there are lots of other disk brake kits to consider. The Wilwood hub diameter is a serious consideration.
 
Wilwoods come already prepped to run big or small bolt pattern.just need to move the studs...just like my rear axles setup for large or small bolt pattern..
 
stroked340 said:
Wilwoods come already prepped to run big or small bolt pattern.just need to move the studs...just like my rear axles setup for large or small bolt pattern..
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Stroked340,
I have the sbp rear with drum brakes. Stupid question but Do I have to buy new axels? Is there another way?
 
steve2724 said:
Stroked340,
I have the sbp rear with drum brakes. Stupid question but Do I have to buy new axels? Is there another way?
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Do you want to go big bolt..if so you can have your stock axles re-drilled for big bolt pattern or you can buy new axles like I did from Moser that come drilled and threaded for small or big bolt pattern
 
I know this is an old thread but I’m having the same problem I replaced all four brakes with Wildwood disk breaks I had to change the axles to Moser for 4 1/2 inch bolt pattern. Now none of my 4 1/2 inch bolt patterns will fit. They rub the caliper you guys have any ideas?
 
philllyc said:
I know this is an old thread but I’m having the same problem I replaced all four brakes with Wildwood disk breaks I had to change the axles to Moser for 4 1/2 inch bolt pattern. Now none of my 4 1/2 inch bolt patterns will fit. They rub the caliper you guys have any ideas?
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So to clarify- you installed wilwood disk brakes on all 4 corners and converted your car to the 5x4.5” bolt pattern. And you have 5x4.5” pattern wheels but the rims hit the calipers?

Do they hit the calipers in the front and the back?

What wheels do you have?
 
Yes, they hit the tires when I spin them and you hear them rubbing the caliper
When I remove the tires I see a wear mark on the perimeter of the caliper sides

They are old school factory rims, it looks like I might have get modern rims.
Any rim suggestions?
 
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I have the 6 piston Wilwood brakes on the front of my car and anything less than a 17" wheel won't fit. In fact I run 18" wheels because the 17's would be super close. Here's a company that makes wheels that will fit as they come with the correct hub size.

RidlerWheel — Wheels
 
I'm running SBP 15" centerlines with the Wilwood front disc conversion. 72 Duster. No issues. Not sure if 15" steelies would work? Hope you get her sorted out. Think you'll find that they perform really well.

Pat
 
philllyc said:
Yes, they hit the tires when I spin them and you hear them rubbing the caliper
When I remove the tires I see a wear mark on the perimeter of the caliper sides

They are old school factory rims, it looks like I might have get modern rims.
Any rim suggestions?
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Totally depends on which brake kit you're running. Wilwood has a spec sheet on their website for each kit, it will show you the dimensions required for the center bore and the distances required for caliper clearances. Recommending rims without knowing which kits you've installed is like shooting in the dark, there are kits that require 15" rims, 17" rims, 18" rims etc.
 
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