Today, dollar for dollar, is the 318 faster than the 340 ???

would you agree ?

  • yep, the 318 wins if buying and building for under 3k

    Votes: 48 41.7%
  • Nope, the 340 always has and always will beat the 318

    Votes: 57 49.6%
  • Actually, never thought about it like this... Good Point !

    Votes: 10 8.7%

  • Total voters
    115
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The most money I have in an engine, including the price of the engine, in my cars today is 1450, and it has aluminum heads. I think 3k would be "unlimited shopping"... LOL

Yeah, but what all did you sell to offset that cost to get to that 1450 with aluminum heads? And yet, you're not giving that option here in your little experiment.
 
It is known that Chrysler under rated those numbers. Mopar Manipulatin - Hotrod Magazine Aug/Sep '69 (I believe?) dispells that rating.

They did not do that JUST to the "Glory 340".

A 2.2 Shelby rated at 110 HP was dynoed at 118 dead stock. Then the Air Pump belt was cut and now it was 124HP, changed the Champions out to some Autolite Copper Truck plugs 2 steps colder and got 126, three aircleaner gaskets netted another 1 HP and final was a real good tune on the computer and it was at 129.6 HP.
While not KILLER it is still under rated from the factory.
 
Yeah, but what all did you sell to offset that cost to get to that 1450 with aluminum heads? And yet, you're not giving that option here in your little experiment.
Post 1367, i made a parts list. Nothing special for deals.
 
They did not do that JUST to the "Glory 340".

A 2.2 Shelby rated at 110 HP was dynoed at 118 dead stock. Then the Air Pump belt was cut and now it was 124HP, changed the Champions out to some Autolite Copper Truck plugs 2 steps colder and got 126, three aircleaner gaskets netted another 1 HP and final was a real good tune on the computer and it was at 129.6 HP.
While not KILLER it is still under rated from the factory.

These same mods to a stock Shelby Charger that was running 17.02 +/- .03 seconds in the quarter at Jackson Dragway SC. We went to 16.98 by just cutting the airpump belt. When all done the car was running in the low 16.80's...
 
Wheel and deal for special parts of course. Do you expect us to believe you have an engine that cost 1450 with aluminum heads and have sold nothing to offset that cost?
Did you even READ my parts list ????? I even gave you the post number.
  • 730 for Speedmaster heads fully loaded shipped to my door. A dozen other FABO members bought them too... right from the company!
  • 400 for the short block, is that unrealistic for a LA360?? It included a cam about like a factory 360 4bbl cam.
  • RPM intake 2nd hand for like 150... can't remember exactly
  • 2nd hand 750 dp, 150.
All fair market value. Yes, I have a carb to pan aluminum head small block mopar for 1450 that runs 12's with stock converter and 3.23's.
 
Did you even READ my parts list ????? I even gave you the post number.
  • 730 for Speedmaster heads fully loaded shipped to my door. A dozen other FABO members bought them too... right from the company!
  • 400 for the short block, is that unrealistic for a LA360?? It included a cam about like a factory 360 4bbl cam.
  • RPM intake 2nd hand for like 150... can't remember exactly
  • 2nd hand 750 dp, 150.
All fair market value.

That's not too bad.......you musta got that badass black friday thingie everybody was talkin about. .......and no I didn't read it. I'm too lazy. You already know that.
 
That's not too bad.......you musta got that badass black friday thingie everybody was talkin about. .......and no I didn't read it. I'm too lazy. You already know that.
yep, 40% off Black Friday. But if anyone can get it, then I call it fair market value. Not something that is a "once in a lifetime deal".
 
When you really look at the "Horsepower PER Cubic Inch", the 340 is really low on the scale. Even the 2.2 Shelby and the 273 4bbl have more HP per cube.
And we all know the 360 E58 in the LRT was more than 225 HP....

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The little red express engine was a E58 modified. They called it the EH1 not an E58.
 
Guys, you are trying to bring common sense and reasonable thinking into a thread that never intended to allow it.
You must be a politician, pull out bits and pieces of a conversation that you want for a narrative LOL :D.... Read my response to RRR's comment and how he ended up say'n "he didn't read it" and then stated "I could go along with that". Make sure you don't put the conversation together.. so it makes perfect sense LOL
 
That's not too bad.......you musta got that badass black friday thingie everybody was talkin about. .......and no I didn't read it. I'm too lazy. You already know that.

I go along with that.

Guys, you are trying to bring common sense and reasonable thinking into a thread that never intended to allow it.
There ^^^... I'll help .... to stop fake news and mis-representation of information..... which stemmed from a conversation about how low a 3k budget was for 2021..... and I replied my most expensive motor I have currently that I put together was 1450.00, and it's an aluminum head 360.... NOW, YOU KNOW THE REsT Of tHE StoRy LOL
 
Can we put a fork in this thing by just agreeing that they will cost EXACTLY the same except for the cost of the block. If a car had a 340 in it that needed rebuilding would a guy go buy a 318 core because they are cheaper to build? What component is more expensive for a 340 than it is for a 318?


I just learned that on Youtube and Instagram there is this thing called "Engagement Rate". It is a metric that is used to determine how much engagement a user is getting from other users. I have read that it is something that can be addictive. Sometimes people will post controversial content to get more hits because in the algorithm, every engagement counts.

Here it would equate to someone who gets a dopamine hit from getting "likes" or 'thanks" on their posts or from how many pages one of their threads can go.

For such a simple topic the OP seems to relish that the thread lasted this far and over 100 people have voted.
Oh, and wouldn't you know it, the OP is a YouTuber. Hmm. Addicted to engagement?

I really like 318WR but Jesus H. Chrysler! Will it ever stop? A much better comparison would have been 3.58 stroke vs. 3.31". Or 3.79" stroke vs. 4.00". Closed chamber head vs. Open?

That’s what I said from the beginning and a bunch of haters lost their minds.
 
448scamp is the hater! Run what you want build it how you want. But to say everyone that can build a respectable engine for $3000 are building junk is infact untrue and very hateful and degrading.
 
you being a hater :)


Not hardly. I just said what it is. A mental masturbation exercise with unrealistic rules designed to make you look like a hero. Don’t be ashamed or embarrassed about it. This thread is getting you what you want. And I’m not the only one who sees it.
 
448scamp is the hater! Run what you want build it how you want. But to say everyone that can build a respectable engine for $3000 are building junk is infact untrue and very hateful and degrading.


A perfect example of a sycophant running interference for his FABO clique buddy. Talk about degrading. Slurping isn’t attractive. Build this badass 3k 318 so we can all see it. It will be a cobbled up mess.
 
Not hardly. I just said what it is. unrealistic rules designed to make you look like a hero. Don’t be ashamed or embarrassed about it. This thread is getting you what you want. And I’m not the only one who sees it.
hater .... only you and about 5 others are disgruntled. i'm the happiest man on this thread... maybe on this entire site !!!!!!
 
A perfect example of a sycophant running interference for his FABO clique buddy. Talk about degrading. Slurping isn’t attractive. Build this badass 3k 318 so we can all see it. It will be a cobbled up mess.
Time for you to man up, honest man ! Post your build, and the money spent. All the details... and what it ran... post up ? Better yet, in your own thread. Time for you to start a build thread ??? LOL Also, we haven't seen a dollar number on what it takes to build a engine that passes your approval. You have well documented that 3k produces a junk engine that's a mess. So give us your number?? Is it 6k ?? Post the number, don't be embarrassed. I'd like to tell the other 50k members here that 448scamp says unless you spent XXXX.XX amount of dollars, your engine is JUNK !!!!
 
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448scamp is the hater! Run what you want build it how you want. But to say everyone that can build a respectable engine for $3000 are building junk is infact untrue and very hateful and degrading.
I'm almost done with my 900 dollar 360, carb to pan !!! .... Can't wait till it hits the track. AND, you can bet I'll post a video for all to see... no secrets! And, it will include every component and cost incase somebody wants to build one. This is what I call "helping" the drive way builder on a tight budget. Yep, we play too.
 
Time for you to man up, honest man ! Post your build, and the money spent. All the details... and what it ran... post up ? Better yet, in your own thread. Time for you to start a build thread ??? LOL Also, we haven't seen a dollar number on what it takes to build a engine that passes your approval. You have well documented that 3k produces a junk engine that's a mess. So give us your number?? Is it 6k ?? Post the number, don't be embarrassed. I'd like to tell the other 50k members here that 448scamp says unless you spent XXXX.XX amount of dollars, your engine is JUNK !!!!

One of these days I’ll post the current cost of the minimum machine work I say is required to do an actual rebuild of any V8. Doesn’t matter the brand or size, that cost is always the same. Then you can do the math. Who says I’m not happy? I enjoy watching you post up nonsense and then defending it. It’s also pleasurable to watch your cronies jump to your defense without actually thinking for themselves.
 
You must be a politician, pull out bits and pieces of a conversation that you want for a narrative LOL :D.... Read my response to RRR's comment and how he ended up say'n "he didn't read it" and then stated "I could go along with that". Make sure you don't put the conversation together.. so it makes perfect sense LOL

:lol: No politician here.

I know todays world is different but I'm old school, if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It's a duck. Of course today it could identify as a giraffe. :D
 
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