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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    I'm thankful for all help, so it's never too late to chime in, thank you. It was the first thing I checked if there's an electronic ignition after I couldn't find the ballast resistor. But it's a points ignition, check the pictures. Ballast resistor is necessary. The initial problem was that...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Thanks, yes, it's going there slowly but steady. Yes, I separated the ign1 and ign2 wires. Correct, right? The way you explained the contact assignment on the ballast resistor is exactly the way the WS manual shows and I did it that way. 1. upper contact: coil + and IGN2 2. lower contact: IGN...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Hello everyone, the parts have arrived this Wednesday from the US. So I have started to install and wire it the way the workshop manual showed incl. a ballast resistor. The charge voltage is perfekt with new electronic Vreg, it moves between 13,8 V in idle and up to 14,4 V above idle, no...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Thank you for the drawing. The red wire (87) from the relay going to the fuse box? It seems the parts coming from NY this Monday already, will replace the key switch and install the ballast resistor and perform the resistance and voltage measurements.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Alright, thanks for your explanation. And yes, after this is done I can send some pictures from recent projects were we repaired or updated electrical system on older french cars like Citroen DS.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    As for the ballast resistor I cross checked your number #2095501 and the one I have in the Valiant book #1889545 and it turns out they have both the same values. Except in my book the resistance isn't shown.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Exactly, each connection produces resistance. On top the trigger wire 85 for the relay is clamped right on IGN 2 wire at the connector of the ign switch. And with this "current thiefs" as we say here in Germany it increase resistance as well because you cut some single "veins" (?) of the copper...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    The ballast resistor is missing on this car. So I ordered one and once it's installed on the right place we'll check with the tests you suggest earlier in this thread.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    It's a 68 mm pulley on this alt. I will check all that when the ign system is complete again.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Thank you very much, that is really helpful. I figured out and reworked as much poor connections as possible. If I understand right the additional relay reduces ballast in J2 wiring to the dash and guides the biggest charing load in the eng compartment wiring, right?
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Ok, thank you. I agree.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    No specs visible on the coil, I have checked carefully. It's the same thing here with very few products are made as well as the factory parts. Mostly scrap. I would like to use OEM parts but my network for US car parts are very poor. As for the resistor, there were no specifications in the...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    I'd like to go for this spark plug wires. Any hints about quality? Here walker products aren't common.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    The wiring looks a bit more messy now, because I have removed the protection around to check on signs of burn or cracked wires. Once everything is solved I put it back in order.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Thank you very much, your drawing looks correct. The connection at the maxi fuse that goes to the dash is what I want to find out. Regarding the book it should go to the AMM "S" and from there via J1 to ignition switch BAT and from the there it distributes current via IGN, AUX, ST and IGN2.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    What is the VR (triangular connector)? Maybe my English tech vocab isn't good enough to understand all the tech therms. Regarding the wire diagram, current flows (R5) from alt FLD to to the resistor and from there to the ign coil (J2 A) and to the ign switch IGN2 (J3).
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Alright, so I'll have to order a resistor as well and I'm thinking about changing the coil, spark plugs and cables and the condenser too. Like that it's all freshed up. As for the resistor I cross checked the part number from the service manual: #1889545 which turns into #2196316 and this shows...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Here is the wiring diagram from 60', same than this car. If I browse the shops they offer round neck alt only for the 60' and 61' models and as of 62' they offer square neck alt too. I also attached the starter.
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Thanks for the hint about the pictures, now I understand how that works. Here are the pictures taken horizontal:
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    In the service manual: bad wire connection on the starter solenoid, it went loose my checking: The starter and ignition shows some very small resistance fluctuation while wiggling the key in the IGN1 and IGN2 position. Would like to replace but couldn't find so far the right one. I...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Hello everyone, we had fun to dive into the electrical system. First we were trying to figure out and understand the functional differences in the electrical/ignition system on the car itself and the differences to the European (except early UK) systems. It's the first time I am working on a...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Thank you all for your feedback and input, now we have something to digest and test. I have found a transistorized regulator (like the one @Mattax showed) and to my surprise someone in Berlin sold it via ebay, it'll arrive very soon. But before we install it we need to draw a clean wiring...
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    Squareback vs round back alternator?

    Hello from Berlin, Germany! My name is Christian and I'm a mechanic usually working on European cars. Just a helping a friend with repairs on his Plymouth Valiant V-200, L6, 170cid from 1960. We're facing some issues with the alternator / regulator and we hope you can help us out. We're thinking...
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