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And david vizard drives a v6 mustang

F#$k david vizard

You wanna see people whine, tell them what I sold you your R3 block for, lol

And if you need to do all that to a factory block to withstand your power goals, you need a better block PERIOD. How many idiots are gonna spend 2k dollars on a weak *** 302 block when you could buy a WAY superior block from dart for the same final cost and make more power?

David vizard is a story teller/book writer. Tons of "theory" and "formulas" But hes also a crook. He **** a good freind of mine who has a machine shop also, out of a bunch of labor for machine work he never paid for.

I really like the bamm lifters also. If your running any w type head, or indy with offset rockers, I like the offset pushrod seat option

I'm not gonna call anybody. I asked YOU to provide the BASIC info on how this engine, that YOU have bragged about performs. You CANT, so I'm fine with that. End of discussion

PM to discuss

So no actual data.....thanks

Ok, as a engine builder, I'm just curious to know the particular details of what it runs. If there is no actual data to back it up, so be it. I'm not concerned about pbr, he can speak for himself, but his results are all over this site, for all to see. He gets more out of his builds than most...

John has probably made more passes THIS season than your buddy has in the last 5. That's what I think he was getting at. And if the elevation is the excuse, post the rest of the particulars of these passes, I'm open minded!

That would be a perfect way to ruin a good block. I suspect the shop trying to sell you that hasn't bothered to probe a lifter bore and tell you how far out of true it is. With that backyard system, you can follow the original lifter bore, which IS off, and put a bushing in there even more...

Where exactly is he "wrong"? That high power exotic engine isn't even as fast as pb racers flat tappet 360

Forget that tube hassle. Send them to me and I'll bush them. Let's you set lifter to bore clearance that way also, rather than being stuck at whatever dimension your old block happens to be

I agree with everything your saying

I personally like the 3.79 stroke combos, good ballance of extra stroke but not excessive. Add a set of W2s or indy heads, it's a great combo

Yeah, but in my opinion, I dont see any real advantage over the 4" stroke, and it also increases rod angle, thrust load on the cylinder and a shorter piston comp height. Most ALL of the stroked sbm builds are cylinder head limited anyway. But again, that's just one guys opinion!

I could have built you one and shipped it to you by now! Still can if you are interested!

Lots of people have. Myself included. Did some R&D work for another shop, found that upper 260 cfm is possible with a good valve job and bowl work. Not very difficult. HOWEVER, compared to a stock OEM magnum head, they are slightly worse flow wise until you work on them.

What I did was to simply mill the intake for valve cover clearance. But like pbr said, gotta make sure you have pushrod clearance, it gets tight.

I think when a guy is trying to step into this level, the price of rockers shouldn't deter him. Quality costs, and T&D are really nice parts. Even harland sharp aluminum rockers are north of 1000 bucks nowdays

I thought the indys just simply used big block rockers? Mine had rockers allready, so I'm not sure

Either one would absolutely stomp his old procomps, even AS CAST

Mine are the oval port -2s and they were a marketplace special. I took them apart, measured everything and retouched the valve job, but they had allready been ported pretty nice. (By hand, NOT cnc) if I recall correctly, these flowed mid 320s at .650 on my bench, so they are very capable. Good...

Yes?

Thanks for the message. What did the "dyno sheet" from this engine say?

The whole situation is unfortunate, but I think valve train geometry is what killed that head. What hack shop built that?

Correction, mine are the oval port 360-2s my bad. Old age sucks

My 360-1s (which I didnt port, but have definitely been nicely done) were I think... if I remember correctly, high 320s at .650

Before you go get all excited about a 273 buildup, get a total cost from that shop to duplicate that build, and compare that to your local pull-a-part $500 360 magnum, that will make that power plus more torque with nothing but a china 4 barrel and a cam swap.