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Ya I'll mess with it tomorrow.

Update - Just got the pressure plate and clutch back from McLeod and it will now shift into gear while running! Just drove it around my yard a few times. Only problem I still have is the clutch is grinding slightly when the pedal is all the way in only. Everything works fine if the clutch...

Quick update - talked with a couple of the 4 speed guys (Brewer's, Passon) and they said McLoed had a bad run about two years ago of pressure plates, right about when this one was purchased. The fingers were put in incorrectly and it allows the clutch to go over center and bind up. Sounds...

duster360 - Yes put a new roller bearing one in, well at least that is what the guy who put it together said. Since the tires move freely in gear with the clutch disengaged I don't think it is the pilot.

I looked inside the bell housing and could feel the ridge on the back of the clutch so 99% sure it's in right. You can kind of feel the hat on the back. Compared the fork to the picture on Brewers site and it looks right but should probably pull it to be 100% sure. Site said it is 7 inches...

OK just tried AJ/FormS test. If the clutch is in about 3/4 of the way it will release, all the way it will bind on something. I freed the clutch, put it in 4th and the wheels turn freely. This mean it's not the pilot? Again as mentioned as of right now, if I put the clutch in about 3/4 of...

Z-Bar is a repop from Brewers I believe, it is the one pictured here: http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TS238

Throw out bearing is good, has the correct 1 inch play right now and it's just back of the forks. Just double checked oil and it's 90W. Has a lot of bubbles on it though. Tranny has been rebuilt but customer had it done years ago, guess it could be synchros but that would really surprise me...

Pretty sure the free play is not the issue, have gone from 3-4 inches of travel back to zero then back to the 1 inch that is correct and it makes no difference, it still has the same problem. It was near the end of the adjustment so put on a repo rod I had on the shelf and same thing, no...

It's the original 340 crank 4 speed though so it would have been factory drilled. OK so here is a weird one, was just playing with it and is you go down 3/4 of the way on the clutch it is free (can spin it), if you go all the way down it binds up again.

It does try to move with the clutch in.

Put a feeler gauge in it and it looks like about .03 inches of separation, don't think that is enough.

Been doing a lot of research on this issue and hoping maybe somebody can come up with something I've missed before I pull the trans. So background, car is a 1969 Dodge Dart with a 340 4 speed. Car is all original, numbers engine and trans. Finally got it to the point where I'm ready to test...