TKO Mounting Hole Pattern?

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I've been looking on the web for several days and cannot find the center to center spacing on the bolt holes for mounting a TKO. I have the bearing retainer or center registration hole diameter but can't find anything else. I also need to know the distance these holes are spaced off of the bearing retainer in X & Y.

Thanks,

- EM
 
I ran into the same problem. Looked forever. I finally found this. I hope this link works.

Thanks much. I found that one too but I questioned what exactly the dimensions are for since (as I recall) TKOs have more than 4 holes to allow a person other ,fit-up options. One of the shops also told me that the TKO pattern falls inboard of the T-5 pattern I have now and when I laid out the holes according to this view, they do not fall inboard of my T-5 pattern. Did you find the picture and dimensions to be accurate? Thanks, -EM
 
Did you find the picture and dimensions to be accurate? Thanks, -EM

Yes. I have a TKO-600 and the dimensions are accurate. My transmission has 5 pre-drilled holes. The four at the corners are slightly larger than 15/32 diameter, but smaller than 31/64. The fifth hole is inline with and approximately 1.625 inch above the lower driver side mounting hole. The diameter of that hole is 21/64.

I did see someone's project posts (I think on moparts) where they used the "fifth" hole by drilling it out larger since the bottom driver side hole was off the face of the bellhousing. The lower portion on the passenger side has material where you could drill a hole above the existing hole for mounting as you can see in the drawing. I personally did not consider using an "alternate" bolt pattern as I don't think it would be as strong. The lower mounting holes have "ribs" to provide some extra strength as you can see in the dimension pic. The other locations would not have that. I saw a few posts on the Mustang forums that suggested it's not unusual to get cracks around the mount points on these transmissions. That's just my opinion. I'm sure folks have used other hole locations without problems.
 

Thanks for confirming that and for your helpful comments on hole positions. I intend to modify a Mopar OEM aluminum bell housing. I'll of course bore the center hole for the TKO bearing retainer and then will see where the four corners holes will be. If any of the holes fall outboard of the mounting surface of the bell housing, I'll just add material in those areas of the bell housing. I agree with you on the ribbing given that it is there for that purpose. Thanks again NW!

- EM


Yes. I have a TKO-600 and the dimensions are accurate. My transmission has 5 pre-drilled holes. The four at the corners are slightly larger than 15/32 diameter, but smaller than 31/64. The fifth hole is inline with and approximately 1.625 inch above the lower driver side mounting hole. The diameter of that hole is 21/64.

I did see someone's project posts (I think on moparts) where they used the "fifth" hole by drilling it out larger since the bottom driver side hole was off the face of the bellhousing. The lower portion on the passenger side has material where you could drill a hole above the existing hole for mounting as you can see in the drawing. I personally did not consider using an "alternate" bolt pattern as I don't think it would be as strong. The lower mounting holes have "ribs" to provide some extra strength as you can see in the dimension pic. The other locations would not have that. I saw a few posts on the Mustang forums that suggested it's not unusual to get cracks around the mount points on these transmissions. That's just my opinion. I'm sure folks have used other hole locations without problems.
 
Hi EM, You're welcome. I modified an older Ansen steel bellhousing to fit the TKO-600. It has the Hemi trans diameter so I turned down the TKO front bearing retainer to fit. I originally thought it was going to be fairly easy after looking at another guys project using a Lakewood bellhousing. Well, it turns out my bellhousing trans mounting face is smaller than the Lakewood. Three of the four mounting holes landed outside the mounting face. I've eye-balled a stock bellhousing and I confident that will be the case as well.

Originally I thought I would weld some kind of "ear" or something similar onto the bellhousing for the holes that were off the face. But the angle/curve/shape that would be required just wasn't practical. I ended up drilling a 1 inch diameter hole where the mounting bolts were located (3 places), welded in short pieces of 1 inch bar stock (welded from both sides) and then drilled/tapped the bar stock for the mounting bolts.
 
Hi EM, You're welcome. I modified an older Ansen steel bellhousing to fit the TKO-600. It has the Hemi trans diameter so I turned down the TKO front bearing retainer to fit. I originally thought it was going to be fairly easy after looking at another guys project using a Lakewood bellhousing. Well, it turns out my bellhousing trans mounting face is smaller than the Lakewood. Three of the four mounting holes landed outside the mounting face. I've eye-balled a stock bellhousing and I confident that will be the case as well.

Originally I thought I would weld some kind of "ear" or something similar onto the bellhousing for the holes that were off the face. But the angle/curve/shape that would be required just wasn't practical. I ended up drilling a 1 inch diameter hole where the mounting bolts were located (3 places), welded in short pieces of 1 inch bar stock (welded from both sides) and then drilled/tapped the bar stock for the mounting bolts.

Good work NW. Your modification solution to get bolt holes is exactly what I had planned as well. I'm going to bore 1.5" diameter holes and put in some round stock, weld from both sides, fly-cut the mounting surface and then drill and tap the holes. Should be fun. For the bore on the bell housing, I might just bore it for the TKO bearing retainer but like the simplicity of being able to machine the TKO retainer down to fit the OEM hole.
 
Hi EM, You're welcome. I modified an older Ansen steel bellhousing to fit the TKO-600. It has the Hemi trans diameter so I turned down the TKO front bearing retainer to fit. I originally thought it was going to be fairly easy after looking at another guys project using a Lakewood bellhousing. Well, it turns out my bellhousing trans mounting face is smaller than the Lakewood. Three of the four mounting holes landed outside the mounting face. I've eye-balled a stock bellhousing and I confident that will be the case as well.

Originally I thought I would weld some kind of "ear" or something similar onto the bellhousing for the holes that were off the face. But the angle/curve/shape that would be required just wasn't practical. I ended up drilling a 1 inch diameter hole where the mounting bolts were located (3 places), welded in short pieces of 1 inch bar stock (welded from both sides) and then drilled/tapped the bar stock for the mounting bolts.

Was also curious what throw out and pilot bearings you used. I'm planning on using the OEM clutch arm with an external slave cylinder. I have a top loader Ford throw out bearing that will can be made tp work but am interested in what you used.
 
I'm also planning to use the OEM clutch fork but with the stock z-bar.

My project is not yet completed. I referenced the Moparts tech article for the starting point on the throwout bearing and pilot bearing. For the TO bearing, I can say that one for 1997 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 will work. My local O'Rielly Auto Parts had one in stock, National 614093. It was made in China, so I kept looking and ended up buying one from Crown, P/N 53008324. Apparently, Crown has been making parts for Jeeps for a long time so I gave them a try. It turns out that bearing was also from China. I'm sure it will work fine. It fits the TKO bearing retainer and Mopar clutch fork. The face of the bearing is about the same diameter as an old Hemi trans TO bearing I have.

As far as the pilot bearing/bushing, I prefer an actual bushing. The Moparts article references some part numbers that are no longer available. I google'd around for a while and decided to go with my own ideas. I started with Pioneer PB-50-J, bronze bushing. It has a smaller outside diameter than the Mopar crank, but I thought I might machine my own "intermediate bushing" to fit in the crank and have it stick out a little past the end of the crank (because the TKO input shaft is shorter than an 833) and then press the bushing into that. My next idea was to use SKF B50-HD. This is also a bronze bushing (lots of Ford applications, ex. F250 65-76) with an outside diameter large than the Mopar crank. The idea is to turn down the outside diameter to fit the larger torque converter opening in the crank. I bought both. I'll try the SKF bearing first (I think).

Moparts Tech Article
 
I'm also planning to use the OEM clutch fork but with the stock z-bar.

My project is not yet completed. I referenced the Moparts tech article for the starting point on the throwout bearing and pilot bearing. For the TO bearing, I can say that one for 1997 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 will work. My local O'Rielly Auto Parts had one in stock, National 614093. It was made in China, so I kept looking and ended up buying one from Crown, P/N 53008324. Apparently, Crown has been making parts for Jeeps for a long time so I gave them a try. It turns out that bearing was also from China. I'm sure it will work fine. It fits the TKO bearing retainer and Mopar clutch fork. The face of the bearing is about the same diameter as an old Hemi trans TO bearing I have.

As far as the pilot bearing/bushing, I prefer an actual bushing. The Moparts article references some part numbers that are no longer available. I google'd around for a while and decided to go with my own ideas. I started with Pioneer PB-50-J, bronze bushing. It has a smaller outside diameter than the Mopar crank, but I thought I might machine my own "intermediate bushing" to fit in the crank and have it stick out a little past the end of the crank (because the TKO input shaft is shorter than an 833) and then press the bushing into that. My next idea was to use SKF B50-HD. This is also a bronze bushing (lots of Ford applications, ex. F250 65-76) with an outside diameter large than the Mopar crank. The idea is to turn down the outside diameter to fit the larger torque converter opening in the crank. I bought both. I'll try the SKF bearing first (I think).

Moparts Tech Article

Thanks much NW. It seems we do and think similarly. I found an over-sized OD/undersized I.D. bearing for my T-5 application and then machined it to fit my crank shaft. I'll take a look at the release bearings you mentioned. I'm mainly interested in the fit they have with the OEM clutch arm I have. Currently I have a top-loader Ford bearing and it fits the TKO bearing retainer well but is not the best fit on the clutch arm. Thanks much for the link! -EM
 
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