%#*?€# kids!

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Cranky said:
My oldest daughter is out in the cold these days so to speak. After years of trying to help her and she just kept doing dumb stuff (and drugs) and then calls me names when I shut down the money tree. Just another moron in the long list of people who believe they are entitled to other people's money and belongings. Yeah, I called her a moron because she is for thinking that way. I sure didn't raise her like that.
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I can relate. I never started the money tree though, not one of my kids would exhibit good judgement. And we didn't raise them that way either.

Now they are starting to "get it".
 
Ouch! Tough break.

Those wheels look like Center Line Billet Prowlers. I put a set of those on my 2001 Ram 1500 back in 01.

Looked like a pretty decent looking truck too. Too bad, hope lessons are learned and everyone is okay.

Oh, and as far as enabling, my dad gave my older sister a car when she was 16. It was a hand me down 86 Plymouth Sundance but was a great car....well until she rearended someone coming down hill at a stop light.

Also, he bought my little sister a nearly new 2003 Ford Focus ZX2 upon graduation from H.S. Competely trashed the inside of the car from cigarettes and food. Ended up broad siding a cop car in it too. lol

Both sisters came to my pops for him to cosign 4 vehicles total...yeah FOUR VEHICLES. Dealership told him he could walk out with a new Corvette zero down and 0% APR his credit was so good.....until the cosigning began.....needless to say all 4 were repoed within a year of being purchased. Ruined my dad's credit.

Me, well, he did pay $300 for the 71 Dart Swinger I had in H.S. in 1999 and the $350 rebuild kit for the 318. Never once wrecked or got a ticket in that thing. That thing was my baby and I appreciated it for my dad was a single dad raising us 3 kids. I even quit playing H.S. sports to pay for the insurance and go fast parts. For some reason my sisters never caught on.
Never cosigned for me either. Ordered that 01 Ram by myself then when I traded it in in 2004 for an 03 Hemi Ram and it ended up getting repoed a year later due to job stuff, my dad never once offered to help me nor did I go to him for help. Guess he knew I had a good head on my shoulders and would come out on top of things in the end.
 
diymirage said:
now would be a good time to explain to him your belt does more then just keep your pants up
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Hmmmmm..... Just got a really weird picture in my head of CrossThread72 spanking his BROTHER-IN-LAW?!?!?!

Not sure if I would spank my brother-in-law, but I sure would cut him off from any future loans. I could never totally turn my back on family, I would help with labor but I would make sure he took care of all the money for parts.
 
I don't think I agree with saying the OP is enabling, he's not indicated that this is anything other than an isolated incident. Kids do dumb stuff. I sure as hell did (and do). Chalk it up to youthful idiocy and roll on.

On that thought though, I would look at these two posts:
Cranky said:
My oldest daughter is out in the cold these days so to speak. After years of trying to help her and she just kept doing dumb stuff (and drugs) and then calls me names when I shut down the money tree.
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I'd still be nice to the kid (he is family) but I'd not finance anything else like this and I'd still insist on full repayment, plus interest. If he's gotta pay for this mistake for a few months or years, the lesson will stick a LOT better.

73AbodEE said:
i would let him buy his own next play toy to destroy
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Yeah, you know. Like what this guy said.
 
And I don't loan money. I might give it away, but I never loan it.
 
So who is going to pay all the deductibles of the cars he slammed into?
 
I had to earn everything i ever got and i never tore it up [cauze i paid for it],when my oldest son graduated we bought him a car for graduation [240sx] he blew the engine street racing soon after [chip off the ole block]. After walking/bumming rides for a while he bought another car and took care of it and still takes care of everything he has [cauze he has to pay for it] same story for my youngest i gave him one of my cars he took very good care of it but we had to sell it so he could buy an economical car to go to work [split shifts 12 miles one way 4 times a day in a 9.5 mpg hotrod] and he takes care of his stuff [cauze he's payin for it] kids don't apreciate anything thats given to them and they turn into adults that don't respect anyones property. Sorry to see that happen hopefully both of ya'll have learned somthing.
 
daredevil said:
Things are taken better care of when they are sweated and toiled for.
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Very very very true......i had crazy ideas when i was younger and did some horrible things to cars ....but i had free run of a salvage yard so the cars i messed up were always just junkers from the yard that no one cared about .....

i never never did anything crazy with my first car which was a cuda bcoz i painted it myself and put sooooo much time and work into it. i was even paranoid to drive it bcoz i didnt want to mess it up.

its not just boys trying to impress girls ....i think its all kids.....for some strange reason insurance was always cheaper for me just bcoz im a female....which i will never understand bcoz i have seen a lot of girls do just as bad if not worse to vehicles like this poor truck :banghead:

now that im older (26) i take care of stuff even better ....i even take care of my parts cars.LOL .....no sense in destroying stuff like a big ape LOL
 
95teetee said:
two people called this a tough break.
A 'tough break' is someone cutting you off and sending you into the weeds.
A 'tough break' is a ball joint coming apart at speed.

This isn't a tough break, this is stupidity.
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Ummm, really dude? Just come on here to try and pick other peoples' comments apart?
I think that the majority understands the point we are trying to make.

Well let's just say that cross thread72 was driving down the road at a high rate of speed and the balljoint he invested in (his brother in law) came apart. TOUGH BREAK!

Or this: Maybe cross thread72 was driving down the investment/helping road and his brother in law cut him off sending him into the disappointing weeds. TOUGH BREAK!

Sure it's stupidity on his brother in law's part but it's a tough break for someone who's trying to help him.
 
I had no qualms of loaning him the cash at first, he was a straight A honor roll student, on the baseball team and wasn't scared to get his hands dirty and do the work during the build. Then comes along the fore mentioned teenage girl, his grades plummeted, he got kicked out of school, became rather undependable. He started stealing anything that wasn't bolted down. It's amazing how the first taste of lust will ruin a good young man.
 
Sorry to see, but lets hope he learns (and repays) a valuable lesson here. If everything has gone downhill since the girl/lust kicked in, the next investment might be a vasectomy!
 
Pretty much the same thing happened with my daughter....met this piece of crap boyfriend that got her into drugs etc etc. This started happening after she moved out, then one day he left so we helped her crawl out of the hole he led her into then came back once he saw her doing well again then once she was down and out, he'd leave again. Well, it's still going on 20 years later but now after several times of that crap, we're no longer enabling it. We didn't turn our backs on her but closed the bank and I'm no longer so open with her. I feel she still owes us an apology for all the lying and the name calling etc but she feels she's done nothing wrong. They say a dog is man's best friend but after they bite you several times, you get to the point where you don't want to be friends with it anymore....let alone tolerate them being near ya! If I had treated my parents half as bad as this kid has treated us, my dad would have beat me to a pulp and then disowned me.
 
They do have hair drug tests. You can look back least 90 days. Might want to just check and see and take it from there. Same with her, lol..good luck getting it, lol

Sometimes thou, stuff just happens, you mean you never squeal the tires ? Yeah doing donuts is going too far but then look what the kids see on TV now, NASCAR racers doing donuts after winning a race--or having a big fight, lol
 
Cranky said:
Pretty much the same thing happened with my daughter....met this piece of crap boyfriend that got her into drugs etc etc. This started happening after she moved out, then one day he left so we helped her crawl out of the hole he led her into then came back once he saw her doing well again then once she was down and out, he'd leave again. Well, it's still going on 20 years later but now after several times of that crap, we're no longer enabling it. We didn't turn our backs on her but closed the bank and I'm no longer so open with her. I feel she still owes us an apology for all the lying and the name calling etc but she feels she's done nothing wrong. They say a dog is man's best friend but after they bite you several times, you get to the point where you don't want to be friends with it anymore....let alone tolerate them being near ya! If I had treated my parents half as bad as this kid has treated us, my dad would have beat me to a pulp and then disowned me.
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I feel ya brother, and my dog never bit me as much as my kids.

Oh and X4 or whatever on the drugs when you take into account not just the chick, but the other issues mentioned.
 
My dad gave me my first couple cars. Never cost more than $500. I took damn care of the Pontiac, but oddly enough, it was him that blew the motor on his paper route one morning. The second sat for several years (87 Chevy spectrum) and blew a radiator or something. Never smelled coolant but it overheated on my way back from school and popped the head. I worked my a$$ off for my vehicles after that
 
It's for sure not drugs, we enlisted him in a private school for at risk teens, they piss test them every semester he's been clean two semesters now. It's the girl, she's on probation for stealing and assaulting an 70 year old man.
 
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