My M-Code Cuda is finally getting worked on

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jimharvard

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got some great pictures from craig at American Metal Direct's restoration shop in Georgia a couple of days ago. they finally got all the parts located to transform my 69 M-Code Cuda from the "drag car" it was to factory stock. craig told me that the car has no rust anywhere. this car may be one of those rare stories that you hear about COPO camaros where the car was never driven much on the highway but became a drag racer early on. it still stuns me why anyone would cut up an original numbers matching M-Code 69 Cuda to make a drag car out of it - but i guess you can do anything with a muscle car if you want to. and this car had almost the ENTIRE floor pan altered along with cutting out the original rear suspension. anyway, by spring, this will be one more restored M-Code going into "big block dave's" M-Code registry. i'll post some more pics as the car moves along.

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Wow, I remember you talking about this car a long time ago. Great to hear it's finally underway. Congratulations!
 
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It is going to be a sweet barracuda. Like my dad told me, back in the day they were just cars. He said the first day he & my uncle brought there barracudas home the dog dish hub caps went in the scrap. Are your stripes reflective ? Your barracuda looks really good in that color combo. Is that the original color ?
 
Jim, Im happy you found a place to take your car. I will be following your resto! congratulations! And since we are in the same city, I cant wait to see it in person!
 
Great to see your saving one of the big block cars, does look like it needs a bit of internal surgery but you've managed to get it in one of the best places to get the work done. Good luck and keep the pictures coming.
 
It's cool, the way it is/was. I love cut-up cars.
 
It's cool, the way it is/was. I love cut-up cars.

mr. missile... i hope you were kidding about liking "cut up cars." your comment did make me laugh.... what the guys did to this car would be like taking a torch to a boss 429 mustang or a yenko camaro... yes the M-code cudas are not worth as much as other "specialty" cars - but they are STILL very rare. there were only about 360 of them made. big block dave has all the stats... i'll bet HE doesn't like making drag cars out of "M-Codes." ask him... i'll bet he'll share his opinion.
 
LOL....I like racecars. It's not what a car is worth to me...more of what personal stuff can be done to enhance it's performance and appearance. I've had enough "over restored" cars, that are slow. Me?... I'll put my money into making it beautiful and fast. I'm glad the hobby isn't full of as-built/slow, old cars. The best times I had in the last 45 years of mopars, were racing them. I don't build cars to please anyone, except myself....and don't feel the need for approval from people with monikers with their names. I just made the comment that I liked your car. You don't take a compliment, very well. That's okay, too.
 
LOL....I like racecars. It's not what a car is worth to me...more of what personal stuff can be done to enhance it's performance and appearance. I've had enough "over restored" cars, that are slow. Me?... I'll put my money into making it beautiful and fast. I'm glad the hobby isn't full of as-built/slow, old cars. The best times I had in the last 45 years of mopars, were racing them. I don't build cars to please anyone, except myself....and don't feel the need for approval from people with monikers with their names. I just made the comment that I liked your car. You don't take a compliment, very well. That's okay, too.
agree w/ MMissle... I like for them to look close to stock and run like a race car myself, but still be able to go get a strawberry shake in it .
 
Back in the late 60s/early 70s lots of people took brand new or nearly new muscle cars, even relatively rare models, and turned them into drag cars, I personally knew several people that did that. At least with a drag car, like yours for instance, it's still straight and solid and can be put back to stock. I knew of some other people in my area, the western suburbs of Chicago, that bought a new 67 GTO and ran it on dirt oval tracks. After a couple years of that, the car was junk.
 
It is going to be a sweet barracuda. Like my dad told me, back in the day they were just cars. He said the first day he & my uncle brought there barracudas home the dog dish hub caps went in the scrap. Are your stripes reflective ? Your barracuda looks really good in that color combo. Is that the original color ?


hey cawley...
your uncle is correct about the dog dish hubcaps. my 68 formula s came with those hubcaps and as soon as i got the car (in sept of 69) i pryed those ugly things off and installed a brand new set of very shinny chrome cragar ss mags. wheels were the very first thing guys did to their cars back then.

the stripes on the yellow m-code are some kind of reflective tape. unfortunately, those stripes will be sacrificed for two now full quarter panels that have to be installed. as to the color, i don't know if that is the orignal color, i haven't tried to determine the original color as this car went straight from the seller in oklahoma to AMD's shop in georgia. i will probably keep this color as the engine bay is almost perfect.
 
mr. missile...
i think you misunderstood my comment... i didn't take any offense... nor did i intend any. i just referenced big block dave because he is active here on FABO and has a m-code registry of original cars. i understand wanting to build race cars. i never got that far into drag racing as all my racing was done "illegally" on the street. however, i was and still am a big drag racing fan watching most of the major events on TV. the point that i was trying to make (although not very well i guess) is that "in my opinion" RARE editions of old muscle cars should NEVER be cut up to make drag cars. there is no need to do that. you can make a very nice HEMI barracuda race car out of a "plain jane" 6 cylinder barracuda - the kind of which plymouth made about 50,000 copies - rather than a VERY rare and limited edition (only 360 made) 69 M-Code factory 440 Cuda. it is true that the rare cars (COPO camaros, boss mustangs, stage v GTOs,) that were made into drag cars probably survived much better than similar versions used on the street. however, as far as i can tell, my M-Code Cuda probably was only built as a drag car in the last 20 years. thus, when this car was built, it was already a 20 plus year old VERY RARE muscle car. mecum and other companies were just starting the collector car auction market 20 years ago and rare cars were being featured at those early auctions. like i said, i don't have anything against your liking to build race cars. i just believe race cars should not be built out of "collector" cars. i'm pretty sure you wouldn't drive down to your local cadilac dealer and buy a new Escalade and then take it out to a "tractor pull and 4x4 mud bog." at least i would HOPE you wouldn't do that... at any rate, good luck in your racing and stay safe...
 
mr. missile...
i think you misunderstood my comment... i didn't take any offense... nor did i intend any. i just referenced big block dave because he is active here on FABO and has a m-code registry of original cars. i understand wanting to build race cars. i never got that far into drag racing as all my racing was done "illegally" on the street. however, i was and still am a big drag racing fan watching most of the major events on TV. the point that i was trying to make (although not very well i guess) is that "in my opinion" RARE editions of old muscle cars should NEVER be cut up to make drag cars. there is no need to do that. you can make a very nice HEMI barracuda race car out of a "plain jane" 6 cylinder barracuda - the kind of which plymouth made about 50,000 copies - rather than a VERY rare and limited edition (only 360 made) 69 M-Code factory 440 Cuda. it is true that the rare cars (COPO camaros, boss mustangs, stage v GTOs,) that were made into drag cars probably survived much better than similar versions used on the street. however, as far as i can tell, my M-Code Cuda probably was only built as a drag car in the last 20 years. thus, when this car was built, it was already a 20 plus year old VERY RARE muscle car. mecum and other companies were just starting the collector car auction market 20 years ago and rare cars were being featured at those early auctions. like i said, i don't have anything against your liking to build race cars. i just believe race cars should not be built out of "collector" cars. i'm pretty sure you wouldn't drive down to your local cadilac dealer and buy a new Escalade and then take it out to a "tractor pull and 4x4 mud bog." at least i would HOPE you wouldn't do that... at any rate, good luck in your racing and stay safe...
where bouts in okla. did you find the little jewell ??
 
where bouts in okla. did you find the little jewell ??


hi famous bob...

this car was advertised on ebay two years ago in boston. it was all set up for drag racing and looked like the picture i posted. it had a 426 hemi in it at the time. the owner was advertising it as a "real M-Code drag car." i got in touch with the guy and tried to buy it without the engine and trans. he wasn't interested in selling it that way. then last february (2016) the car shows up again on ebay, the same car but now with a 440 in it. a guy from bartlesville, ok who was a mopar guy and had a race garage had purchased it from boston wanting the hemi for another car he was building. i was able to negotiate a deal with this guy to sell me just the rolling chassie. i wasn't interested in any of the race parts so i let the race car guy keep whatever he wanted. we were able to agree to a price that made sense to me knowing what the costs would be to repair and replace all the race preparations and to install a OEM drive train. the market is down on mopars and i'm not the kind of collector that invests outrageous amounts of money in my cars. i have 4 Cudas now with this M-Code and every one of them could be sold tomorrow at current market prices without me losing any money. i do have to say, however, that i have done all the restoration and paint work on my cars myself so i don't have any labor costs invested in my cars. i watch every mecum auction and it is now cheaper to buy a fully restored car (any make or model) than it is to buy one and take it to a shop. american metal direct is only doing the rough panel repair on my car and i will be doing the final bodywork, paint and drive train installation. when this car is done, i will have about $37k in it which is a good number for a restored 69 M-Code Cuda.
 
hi famous bob...

this car was advertised on ebay two years ago in boston. it was all set up for drag racing and looked like the picture i posted. it had a 426 hemi in it at the time. the owner was advertising it as a "real M-Code drag car." i got in touch with the guy and tried to buy it without the engine and trans. he wasn't interested in selling it that way. then last february (2016) the car shows up again on ebay, the same car but now with a 440 in it. a guy from bartlesville, ok who was a mopar guy and had a race garage had purchased it from boston wanting the hemi for another car he was building. i was able to negotiate a deal with this guy to sell me just the rolling chassie. i wasn't interested in any of the race parts so i let the race car guy keep whatever he wanted. we were able to agree to a price that made sense to me knowing what the costs would be to repair and replace all the race preparations and to install a OEM drive train. the market is down on mopars and i'm not the kind of collector that invests outrageous amounts of money in my cars. i have 4 Cudas now with this M-Code and every one of them could be sold tomorrow at current market prices without me losing any money. i do have to say, however, that i have done all the restoration and paint work on my cars myself so i don't have any labor costs invested in my cars. i watch every mecum auction and it is now cheaper to buy a fully restored car (any make or model) than it is to buy one and take it to a shop. american metal direct is only doing the rough panel repair on my car and i will be doing the final bodywork, paint and drive train installation. when this car is done, i will have about $37k in it which is a good number for a restored 69 M-Code Cuda.
cool , I think I might have heard of that car in Bartlesville, which is about 30-35m minutes north of me. don`t know the guy but sounds like an interesting guy to get to know tho. he might have been to the recent mopar meet , but ???? dig the fastbacks !
 
Every one of these cars could have been put back to stock and slow, but...
Original 66 Belvedere I, factory hemi/4-speed.
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Original WO23, 67 Dodge Coronet-440. 426/4-speed
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Original N-code 70 `cuda vert. 6.4/NAG1[my mom's car from 72]
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...and I've had tons of other ones. The 2 OEM cars were the most boring.

I'm glad you've got your dream-car...and you should do with it, as you see fit. However, as long as someone has wanted to make their car fast...they have. The initial reason for buying a hemi, BB,340-car, instead of a POS 6-cylinder car....is that you already had better components, and a base to work from. Not everybody sees them the same. They were built mostly by a bunch of drunks and stoners, who had little to no education. The people on the line didn't care about quality or different, just their paycheck..and doing as little as possible to get it. I worked on the lines, and witnessed it. After 4 years, I quit. It was like working with mild-altered, robot-children. I believe, as long as there's a couple of examples to see in collections and museums of such "rare" cars, the rest should be done with...as seen fit. Hell, I'd race most "stock" muscle-cars with my new mini-van. It's a hoot to beat-up on an old muscle-car. It's unfortunate that this hobby has become about rarity, which equates to money. The reason these cars were built, was to race. And had they been fast....there never would have been an "after-market", created. Have fun, because I do.
 
SOME KICK A$$ OLD CARS THERE ! I LKE THE BIG TIRE STINKBUG STANCE MYSELF ! saving any barracuda is great, especially an M code ! I have created my own M code monster, tho it`s a 68 - lol--- that barracuda convert w/ the 392 is far out .
 
well ... the latest news on my M-Code rebuild at AMD in Georgia....

the "drag race" wheel well "tubs" have really caused major problems not only because of the entire inner wheel well assembly being removed but because they also butchered the inner quarter panels. no one makes the inner quarter panels. i had found a set at a yard in georgia but because of the way they had to be cut out, they became very expensive. further, AMD does not make ANY of the floor pan support and attachment brackets for the interior trim and seats. so to solve these problems, i purchased an entire second body shell that was on ebay. the guy was a mopar guy and was glad to sell it to another mopar guy. he had the car for quite a while and was glad to see it go. further, he had a whole garage full of parts that he said he didn't want so i will be listing a lot of that stuff on FABO once i get the car.

the car is coming from upstate New York and i'm having the shippers stop at my house here in pittsburgh so i can unload all the parts and then they are continuing down to georgia with the car. once craig at AMD gets it, he will have ALL the parts he will need to finally finish my car.

here's what i bought:

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well ... the latest news on my M-Code rebuild at AMD in Georgia....

the "drag race" wheel well "tubs" have really caused major problems not only because of the entire inner wheel well assembly being removed but because they also butchered the inner quarter panels. no one makes the inner quarter panels. i had found a set at a yard in georgia but because of the way they had to be cut out, they became very expensive. further, AMD does not make ANY of the floor pan support and attachment brackets for the interior trim and seats. so to solve these problems, i purchased an entire second body shell that was on ebay. the guy was a mopar guy and was glad to sell it to another mopar guy. he had the car for quite a while and was glad to see it go. further, he had a whole garage full of parts that he said he didn't want so i will be listing a lot of that stuff on FABO once i get the car.

the car is coming from upstate New York and i'm having the shippers stop at my house here in pittsburgh so i can unload all the parts and then they are continuing down to georgia with the car. once craig at AMD gets it, he will have ALL the parts he will need to finally finish my car.

here's what i bought:

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looks like a shame to cut that up !!
 
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looks like a shame to cut that up !!
That's what i was thinking!
Why not just swap the numbers from the M code car to the new shell? It's even a '69.
Then sell the rolling chassis as a race car without numbers and you would be a lot of money, time, and work ahead!

(BTW, I'm just kidding!)
 
yes... the shell i bought came from out west and is pretty much rust free.

cutting it up doesn't make me happy but i need a lot of parts for my other car and AMD is getting anxious having one of their work bays tied up for a year. they want to get my car done as much as i do. and just to add a little more saddness ... the body shell came with a clear title and the original fender tag!!

as to "swapping VIN numbers" - yes... that was the first thing the seller of the body shell suggested i do... but after all the posts i've submitted here on FABO on the dangers of "altering VIN numbers" doing that with my m-code car was NEVER a consideration..!! and besides, i'm pretty sure even a completely restored M-Code Barracuda is not worth my law license...

i talked to the car seller today and he's got all the parts gathered up. he sent me three pages of parts that's coming with the car. i'm putting out the transport bid today on U-bid. i'm trying to get the car moved next weekend now that it looks like the snow is going to start melting.

oh and one other thing... those casters that the car is sitting on? yep... they came with the deal...
 
shipping nighmare.....

i don't know how many FABO folks have shipped cars before but i can tell you it is NOT easy!

i first tried to arrange for the body shell i purchased to be shipped from NY to Pittsburgh where it would be for about an hour while i unloaded all the parts coming with the car and then the shipper would continue on to Cleveland, GA where American Metal Direct's resto shop is located. HOWEVER, NO SHIPPER would agree to do that!!

so now the car is being taken one way only from Congers, NY to my house where it will be unloaded and left. it will stay here for a couple of days until i can arrange for a second separate shipping deal to take the car from my house down to AMD. since the body shell was full of parts and on casters, i had to specify that the car be shipped in a small enclosed race car type trailer with a full ramp door and a winch. as it turns out, most shipping dispatchers DO NOT want to be restricted to this kind of equipment. their standard response is to say "we can transport your car on an open car hauler." it literally took me two weeks to nail down someone with a race car trailer. and as to cost? well .... it's going to cost $750.00 to ship just a body shell about 400 miles from NY to Pittsburgh, then for the second shipping deal, $550.00 just to take the shell alone from Pittsburgh to Georgia.

i did look at the FABO shipping postings but the comments there are not current and i had to get my parts car down to AMD as soonn as possible.

the moral to this story is - if you have to ship a car, an open car hauler carrier will be the least expensive and if your car will not run, that will cost extra. if you need an enclosed trailer of any size, prepare to spend some money. this is the 5th vehicle that i've shipped. with the increases in road tolls, equipment insurance, and fuel costs, shipping cars is an expensive endeavor.
 
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