18,000 orig. mile 318 build

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Hi guys! Tomorrow im going to be picking up a 77 Asen 318 4 door 18,000 original mile car. Im getting the car at a really good price for the age and shape its in. Im tryin to find the best bang for my buck performance adders. I know 340s and 360s are a better starting point but this things practically a baby yet. So if you guys have any input id appreciate it. Im not lookin to get 5-600hp just wanna wake it up a bit n maybe play with it on the track a few times.
 
Any idea on specs for a cam? Id like to change out the intake as well, what would be the best bang for the buck intake?
 
Take a look at the Comp 265DEH.
 
Headers , intake carburetor a better cam , maybe cut the heads a bit to bring up compression a point or 2 , you should be good to go . 318 is a good engine , they just choked it from the fatory with small carb , small valves exhaust and intake manifolds . MY 318 was quick back in the day with those few changes , it's a good starting point .
And don't forget to change the timing chain , those plastic gear setups break easily .
 
Is this the red Aspen down in Luray VA? Just purely curious....

The Weiand SBM intake is not too pricey and has the slightly smaller port size that matches the 318 heads better, I do believe.

JIMHO for cams......If 'twer me with a pure stock setup in the trans and rear, I would go with the Crane H204/286 stump puller cam; it is the 1st one listed at the top of their catalog page 158, the HR-204/286-2-12 IG, and no more than the one below it on that page, the HR-214/325-2S-12 IG.

Another I would look at is the Lunati Voodoo's, either the 10200207, or the 10200260. The latter has 5 degrees of advance ground so will help low end torque.

Put in a new timing chain when in there. If you get the Crane cam, get one of the chain sets that have the +/- 4 degree cam setting in the crank sprocket, so you can easily advance the Crane cam to +4 degrees advance. (I do believe the above Crane cams do not come with any ground-in advance but I have not cheked that in detail.)

A 600 or 650 cfm vacuum secondary carb would be my choice.

The distributor timing work as mentioned will be an important thing to do; it will be some effort but can be a very good back-for-buck change.
 
Thanks guys, the more help the better. I do want to eventually build somehing bigger n better jus figured might as well beat on the teen for awhile. I even thought about doin a turbo build later on. The Aspen im getting is red buts located in Uniontown, the old fellow that had it passed away so his grand kids are sellin it.
 
I would first go with dual exhaust. 2 1/4" with turbo mufflers and an H pipe or X-pipe if you wish.


Then upgrade to a wiand stealth intake and square bore carb...

And consider one of the cams recommended above...
 
What would an LD340 intake be like? Or locally thers a performer spreadbore for $80
 

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I recommend getting it running GOOD like it is first. That way you can see what's going on with it and get used to it before you completely change it.
 
Verify the shape of the engine first.If it has good compression and does not use much oil then you can mod.
Air in/air out.
Dual exhaust
intake(used performer for $80 is fine)
Carb(your choice but 600 cfm is plenty)
Cam(err on the small side)
Distributor recurve

Headers are great but dual exhaust at a minimum(2.25 pipe and good flowing mufflers)


GEARS (find out what gears you have and swap to a 3.23/3.55 gearset)
 
Shes alil hefty. Lol
Bout the length of a Camry/Sebring. Somewhere in the 3400-3600 lb range. There's a lot of options for the gears- but 2.7 is probably the one in it being a stock '77.

Probably the usual 7-1/4 rear if it's not a tow package car.
 
That performer intake is a spreadbore. If I was to get it which carb would be best for street and some strip? Or should i just search for a squarebore intake?
 
The cheaper the better! Lol! Wanna try n find a used carb as well. I like to tinker rebuildin them plus they work the same as a brand new one.
 
Is there a big difference in performance difference between long tube n shorty headers? I found a set of stainless shortys on ebay for $160/pr. Any thoughts??
 
The cheaper the better!

First, get it running right, as mentioned here before. Check for engine fitness, and if it's OK, check if you have the lean burn system. If so, swap to a Mopar distributor with HEI module (or an older Mopar Performance P3690426 dizzy kit that doesn't have Chinese crap in it - can be had cheap on eBay if you play your cards right), first thing.

Consider 1992-93 Magnum exhaust manifolds instead of headers, if you can fit them in the F-body. (Don't forget to cap the air recirculating port on the passenger manifold - Stieger makes a $14 blockoff plate, and the gasket is available if you search around). They'll flow good and won't loosen up or cook your engine bay like headers (price will not be any better than new headers, unless you can dig them up in a junkyard). Either will require exhaust pipe mods. If you do the '92 manifolds, remember to get the Magnum-specific mounting bolts that go with it - the bolts at the ends of the manifold are longer than LA bolts (as opposed to the LA studs).

Edelbrock's Performer 318/360 often runs dirt cheap on eBay because it's ports favor the 318, not the 340 or 360 (ask me how I know). Thus, it favors your engine and pocketbook. The carb to fit it, on the other hand, will not be as priceworthy - unless you can find something local and lightly used. And remember, you'll have linkages that you'll have to fit onto the intake. Do some searching on Google at "site:forabodiesonly.com 4 barrel linkage" and "site:forbbodiesonly.com 4 barrel linkage" and you should be able to bring up some info about it (not really clear on it myself yet - not there yet with my 360 build).

That should make you pretty happy for now. Wait before you go cam crazy and tear apart the entire front of the engine apart to do so, because you'll pretty much force yourself into the cost of a double roller timing chain, water pump, water pump seals, break-in lube, an oil change, and general worry as you try to calculate the possibility that your expensive new cam just might inexplicably eat its own lobes during break in.

Incidentally, if I may backpedal on my own advice: The timing chain is highly advisable regardless of whether you swap the cam (you probably have a nylon gear set in there now), and Cloyes offers a $30 double-roller under the part number #C3028. Also consider Cloyes #95387 timing chain tensioner from the 3.9L v6 while you're at it - it replaces the cam thrust plate and is a cheap and good upgrade to stabilize timing. You'll also probably find that the factory did not put an oil slinger behind the timing chain either, and it should have one. Figure another $12-15 for one of those along with a new front seal for $5-8. Doesn't sound like much, but you'll be screaming at the overpriced little stuff more than the expensive big stuff by the time you get here.

It adds up.

-Kurt
 
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