I'm considering a new hand gun... HELP!

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While not really a 1911, my wife and myself both LOVE our Stoeger Cougar 8000 F in 9mm. No huge beavertail, but still nearly impossible to bite yourself. Very low recoil, and therefore very good groupings. My wife fired this as her first-ever handgun experience, and was able to hold a softball sized group at 25 yards. Sights are three dots. Clip is 15 round double stack. Very easy teardown and re-assembly.
 
Cruzin said:
What specifically are your intentions for the weapon use?
Just like everyone asks what are the intentions of the use of their car in regards to building an engine.
I work for a weapons components MFG plant for alot of hand weapon MFR's up to and above 20mm Vulcan cannons.
So, "use" is the question. Protection? Sport? Target? Hobby?
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All of the above.

As I said earlier in the thread, I've got several revolvers, and I love them, I have a growing interest in Semi-Autos now, and I've always been a 1911 fan. I'm probably going to end up with several guns, but I'm thinking my first semi-auto should be a 1911, as it is my favorite.
It will be used as a carry weapon, and for home protection.
I realize they are large weapons, and I have fired a number of them, but still don't know enough about them to make an "educated decision as to which one is the "best bang for the buck", so to speak.

I know a bunch of members here are "gun guys", and some are even Radical Right wingers, who shall go nameless, but his initials are BAD SPORT.... All of you have more experience with semi-autos than I, and have formed opinions on the pluses and minuses of the various brands and models, and price ranges.

I will use it as my carry weapon, it will also be used for targets, and self defense.

All that said, I'm not opposed to other semi-autos, either... .357's 9mm, 10mm, 380's, etc.
I'm asking about the 1911, since it's my first choice. I understand that is fairly large for a carry weapon, but, I've been carrying a a .357 revolver with a 5" barrel, and it's not small or light. I'd just like to move to a semi-auto.

I thank the Lord that I've never had to use it in self defense, or in the defense of another, but, It's still better to be safe than sorry.
I understand that carrying is not politically correct, but, but I consider that to be another plus.

will also be purchasing a couple of rifles over the next year. Presently I have a Remington 12ga., a Winchester 243, a Remington 700CDL 7mm Mag. and a Henry 45-70 Lever action.

I'd like pick up an AR15, too. a Colt LE6920MP is what I tried out.
 
Gosh Frank........is your crystal ball lookin THAT gloomy?
 
Frankie said:
I know a bunch of members here are "gun guys", and some are even Radical Right wingers, who shall go nameless, but his initials are BAD SPORT.... All of you have more experience with semi-autos than I, and have formed opinions on the pluses and minuses of the various brands and models, and price ranges.
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My opinion, I'm sure it does not matter. I don't want ANYTHING to do with ANY single action pistol for CCW. What I want is double action revolver, double action only pistol, or "double - single" action pistol, not necessarily in that order.
 
67Dart273 said:
My opinion, I'm sure it does not matter. I don't want ANYTHING to do with ANY single action piston for CCW.
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Nope, me either. Once one goes through a few hands on training scenarios like I have, you'll be convinced of that REAL quick.
 
Frankie said:
but I'm thinking my first semi-auto should be a 1911, as it is my favorite.
It will be used as a carry weapon, and for home protection.
I realize they are large weapons, and I have fired a number of them, but still don't know enough about them to make an "educated decision as to which one is the "best bang for the buck", so to speak.

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I will use it as my carry weapon, it will also be used for targets, and self defense.
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If you plan to train a lot (tap-rack-bang drills, etc.) the 1911 is a good choice.
If you don't plan to train a lot, hard to beat a Glock for feed reliability and go-bang-reliability

You mention you carry a full size 5" revolver - a full size Glock 17 will hold 17+1 rounds (or 19+1 with a +2 baseplate). A 1911 with the right mags will go 8+1 rounds.

Just make sure you get a holster that completely covers the trigger guard (and be careful holstering)
 
It's not a 1911, but I have a Colt Gold Cup 70 series .45 cal. My father bought it in the 70's for competition shooting. I've had it since his death in 87 and it still shoots flawlessly. For CCW I prefer my 5 shot SW centennial .38 cal,(JHP +p) (I agree with Rusty on this)but occasionally I'll take my Glock 19 9mm(JHP) both are lite weight, Easily concealed, accurate and highly reliable.....JMHO
 
Sorry not your typical 1911. Specifically mine. Target trigger. modified internals. 2 pound trigger pull and custom target grips. It's not a CCW gun in it's current setup.
 
I would find a friend with a piece similar to what you want. Ask him or her if you can squeeze off a few mags. Or hit the range. I'm a die hard Sig fan . To go to a 1911 feels backwards to me. They are cool as hell, but I don't wanna get bit either. If you aren't familiar with these 19th century firearms, they'll get ya. The army finally retired it a few decades back in favor of the Beretta 92fs. You can't beat the cool factor of the 1911 or its modern brother the 1991A1 plus the stopping power of a huge heavy round, is hard to top. But you gotta look at everything. Initial cost, accessories, and what should be your biggest expense. ..AMMO !!!!. No matter what you get, if you don't practice, it's no better than a paperweight.
Be safe and good luck. BTW armslist is a good resource. Like Craig's list for guns.
 
Believe me I say this with a smirk, but I am not sure which bench racing crowd is more full of **** between cars and guns. Everybody is an expert, lol!
 
I actually am an expert. Don't know as much as I wish about cars though.
 
999yards said:
I actually am an expert. Don't know as much as I wish about cars though.
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expert I`m not. have had guns since I was in the first grade-6yrs. old. a lot of experience w/ them on the farm and hunting. even cleet classes for the heck of it. that being said , I don`t like pistols (semi autos) that don`t have safeties. the stupid trigger thing on the glocks are worthless, if you pull the trigger by accident it will go off. they are great guns other than that in my humble? opinion.
 
So, did you get to the range? Try some shooters out?
 
I have a Firestorm compact 45 acp, Bersa makes them now I believe. love the gun it is a small 1911 and a 10 round clip. Just super hard to find extra clips.
 
Although parts interchangeability is fractional, things like guide rods, buffers, barrel links do fit the llamas. It also takes Para Ordnance mags. I've won a few pistol matches with my double stack Llama 1911 and love the look on the guys faces after they see my target then look at the gun.... Priceless.
 
Bought a Ruger SR9C for $425 6 months ago. It came with a 10 round and 17 round clip.
It's not a Gloc, a Colt, or a Sig, but I'm happy with it. Comes apart easy and good safety features.
It's a good sized (compact model) for concealed carry. The LC9 is even smaller.
Around here (southern NH) there is a Sigarms Academy where, when you take the firearms safety course, you get to try all of their guns. Good Deal!

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr9c/models.html
 
famous bob said:
expert I`m not. have had guns since I was in the first grade-6yrs. old. a lot of experience w/ them on the farm and hunting. even cleet classes for the heck of it. that being said , I don`t like pistols (semi autos) that don`t have safeties. the stupid trigger thing on the glocks are worthless, if you pull the trigger by accident it will go off. they are great guns other than that in my humble? opinion.
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The glock is a great utility gun, very reliable, but that's about it. It's not my favorite but it is my favorite carry gun. G19.

The Sig P226 and a 1911 are my favorites. Although any pistol is only good for fighting your way to your rifle.

A lot of people argue about stopping power vs. Caliber. But this is a fact, hit the subject in the pelvic area and they will go down. It may not stop the threat but a follow up shot on a non moving threat is easier. The pelvic region is highly vascular and a 400ft/lb shock to it will plant a man allowing you to get cover and shoot from cover if need be.

Also too small a handgun for a person's hand is not good. Under stress a person will suffer from loss of fine motor control, visual, and auditory distress so having a gun that fits the hand well is much more important than caliber, which makes the pelvic shot easier than attempting a head shot or hoping a center mass shot doesn't over penetrate. Training and I don't mean going to the range and shooting is very important so have a gun that fits. Good high stress training will help a person recognize the onset of the above symptoms and that's more than half the battle won in controlling those symptoms.
 
999yards said:
Good high stress training will help a person recognize the onset of the above symptoms and that's more than half the battle won in controlling those symptoms.
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Yup. We did some scenarios a few years ago, I went in thinking I can do this, NOT!

I was quite surprised at the outcome, something I had not even thought about, and I would venture a guess most people don't.

A lot of folks think, I got a gun I'm safe. Not always the case, it does help even the odds, but it's only part of the equation.
 
They don't think about it Bruce probably because most have never been under stress like that. But what they will never forget is the tunnel vision and deafness that happens when they are trying to defend their life or someone else's. Practice controlling those issues accompanied by tactics is paramount to survival both physically and legally.
 
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