Are the top covers 1966?
And the bottom covers with the pcv valves 1967?
And the bottom covers with the pcv valves 1967?
what year are these commando valve covers?
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You are correct.
This ^^^^^
clifcuda65
Old Mopar Geezer
Uh, Guys... I do NOT agree... The top pictured covers are 65 Not 66... 66 had the bulge for the pc valve and breather tubes... Only the 65's were flat where the tubes are for PC valve & Breather.
Bottom ones are 67... Bulge for breather tube and black rubber grommet for pc valve...
But, bottom pic wrongly shows a 65/66 pc-valve on the valve cover that should have a breather cap... but it is a 67 valve cover as it has the aluminum fins with the one piece plastic plug wire holder that holds two wires (the notch between the wire holder loops)
Clif of Az. :coffee2:
Bottom ones are 67... Bulge for breather tube and black rubber grommet for pc valve...
But, bottom pic wrongly shows a 65/66 pc-valve on the valve cover that should have a breather cap... but it is a 67 valve cover as it has the aluminum fins with the one piece plastic plug wire holder that holds two wires (the notch between the wire holder loops)
Clif of Az. :coffee2:
On the top set you can see the quite large wiring harness bracket in the middle which the 66's had. The 65's used the 3 little wiring harness tabs - 1 in the middle and the two outboard ones
clifcuda65
Old Mopar Geezer
I do not agree... My 65 Dart and my 65 Cuda had what is pictured in the top Picture...My brother Bob had a 66 and it had the same wire harness shield as my 65, but he had the bulges in the valve covers where the tubes went... You want photos of my 65 Valve covers that I know are correct?
I think some VERY early 65 covers had 3 small tabs... But to keep the carb linkage away from the wires they quickly changed it to the wide one in the middle... But all 66 Valve covers had the bulge where the breathers/PC Valve went
But... there could have been leftovers... or over runs... Anything is possible...
I'm smiling by the way...
Clif of Az.
Correct! The passenger side cover on the 65's only had the fold over tabs for the harness. The 66 cover had a metal heat guard as well as the fold over tabs for the harness and the vacuum advance hose to go through. The 67's of course had a pcv grommet.
67,66 and 65 respectively.
TMM has it... :thumblef:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but how could the carb linkage (on the driver's side) interfere with the wiring harness that was secured on the Passenger side valve cover with either the 3 small tabs (65) or the 2 small tabs and 1 large one (66)?
clifcuda65
Old Mopar Geezer
okay... my 65's came with 66 valve covers and my Brothers 66 formula "S" came with 67 valve cover's except... the PC VALVE had the stove pipe tube and Not the grommet ! And, he did Not have the notch between the two wire looms on the aluminum fins ...
I can live with that !
I can live with that !
clifcuda65
Old Mopar Geezer
The lower Secondary closing shoe linkage... on the PASSENGER side... go look at an AFB !!!
That's WHY they added that shield... it was catching onto some of the wires. "SOME" People did not always secure their wires very well... I guess... Why else would they spend money making the center one MUCH wider... Safety issue!!!
Just saying...
clifcuda65
Old Mopar Geezer
Here is a picture of the carb 3853S (AFB) and valve cover linkage shield... On My 65 Barracuda...
Who is going to now tell me I have been driving a 66 all these years???
Clif of AZ :coffee2:
Who is going to now tell me I have been driving a 66 all these years???
Clif of AZ :coffee2:
Have you owned the car since new?
Is it 100% original, or could someone have put the 66 covers on your 65 at some time...
The original owner of my 67 Barracuda had the 68 marker lights installed because he was a "good samaritan"... :angel12:
Yep you're correct. 66's did have that guard on. I wonder if it had anything to do with the heat riser passage. I wonder when in 65 it was changed?
66340SEDAN
FABO Member #3649
I always wondered why the bracket was wider, makes perfect sence now, thanks :glasses7:
grimreaper
Cross Member
I worked on a bunch of them back in the day and TMM has it correct. I never saw the long wiring bracket on a 65 until folks started grabbing them at wrecking yards and doing some swapping.
Here's a 65 (or so they say) without the guard.
Could they have pulled it ahead in 65 sometime?
My 67 had original valve covers and they are the ones without the stove pipe pcv and had the long bracket on the pass side...
Could the single tab in the middle have been 64?
clifcuda65
Old Mopar Geezer
Laughing my *** off Toolmanmike... That is MY PICTURE of MY Cuda!!!! And it has that shield but since black on black does not always show up... it's there...
I have had this Cuda since 1973... bought it from the Original owner who was just an old man who just drove it like a normal car... He was not into any sort of mods, so I do not think he would swap valve covers since he apparently never opened the hood from the way is was Arizona dirty. (BUT, I won't or can't rule it out since there seems to be massive support against me) Now my 65 DART, I bought Brand New!
All the 66 pictures I'm pulling up show the Hump in the Valve covers where the stove pipe Breather and PC Valves go !!!
QUOTE: Could they have pulled it ahead in 65 sometime? QUOTE: Sure could. Unless there was a service bulletin we may never know. I wonder if Ulf's 65 Charger had the old covers and what is the production date? I will look for photos and PM him about the build date.
That's funny. What are the chances? lol
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All the 66 pictures I'm pulling up show the Hump in the Valve covers where the stove pipe Breather and PC Valves go !!![/QUOTE]
I see the raised doughnut around the stove pipes on the 67's but the 65's and 66's look the same.
All the 66 pictures I'm pulling up show the Hump in the Valve covers where the stove pipe Breather and PC Valves go !!![/QUOTE]
I see the raised doughnut around the stove pipes on the 67's but the 65's and 66's look the same.
Here's what I have:
clifcuda65
Old Mopar Geezer
I'm thinking they changed it some time in 65 for a safety fix... but to be truthful I'm making a guess... Just like they changed the exposed resonator tip during the 65 run... I hear tell it was to have the tip with rolled edges... as there were reportedly some peeps who got cut from the un-rolled edges on the original black tip??? But some say it was just to have the polished stainless tip... Who really knows... They did things quietly back then... not like today's RECALLS!
Yes... I was so shocked seeing you show me my picture... I'm still laughing... You made my day toolmanmike!!! I'd buy you a beer if I could !!!
clif :coffee2:
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