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So. With the baby boomers in their 60's now, how will the future of the collector car values look in your opinion??

I know the old school Model A's, T's etc really took a dump on value.

Personally I feel even the kids today can look at a vintage muscle car and see it as a "cool" car.

Any and all opinions appreciated. I look at my cars as not only a great time, and hobby....but also sadly, as investments.
 
I think we boomers fueled the rise in value for muscle cars. This is what we grew up with and what we value, unlike the previous generation's appreciation for Model T's and cars from the 30's and 40's.
Likewise, the Millenials (I think that's what you call the current 20-30 year olds) value the cars they grew up with: Vipers, Mazda RX7's, Subaru WRX, Mitsubishi EVO, late platform Mustangs and Camaros, ... Those are the cars which will rise in value. I predict generally speaking, in about 10 to 20 years, muscle car values will level out and modestly appreciate with inflation. The Millenials will drive up the value of their generation's cars.
My two cents...
 
Yep they will not rise in value like they did pre 2008, probably around 2% a year for the muscle cars, some 80's stuff like grand nationals, GTA's etc may rise a bit more.
 
Done some reading on the issue-JMHO here. As we die off, there will be a surplus of these cars and a diminishing market of those who appreciate these cars that meant so much to us. Coming culture changes and other issues will come into play. I think it is risky to plan on anything other than number matching elite cars-and you all know what they are, to increase in value. I like real estate for true value and appreciation-----------
FWIW-JMHO----DR:coffee2:
 
there really are some bad *** cars out there these days - Hellcat cars come to mind - going to be worth a mint some day. The rare and special muscle cars will always hold their value because they are collectible. To me, the one "newer" car that comes straight to mind is the mid 80's Buick Grand National's - the rare GNX's and odd optioned cars are stooopid expensive.. I would still love to have a nice one.. some 80's Firebirds are still holding their value too.. you'll get no shortage of opinions on this subject for sure - everyone has their "wish car"
 
.. as us older guys disappear the surplus will grow and the value will decrease on the "driver" style build.
Hi end builds (even clones) and rare models will always hold or increase in value.

for now....Geezers Rule!
 
I'm 21 and I plan on having, buying, building muscle cars till I die!! Be that tmrw or when I'm 80!!
 
ir3333 said:
.. as us older guys disappear the surplus will grow and the value will decrease on the "driver" style build.
Hi end builds (even clones) and rare models will always hold or increase in value.

for now....Geezers Rule!
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I have to pretty much agree.

investments:::: I would look to something else.... this is basically a great hobby.

I bet given the chance, there are lots o f younger people that would love to have one of our old cars, not saying they would not ALSO want an interesting cool, fast " modern" car to go with it!??????????
 
Well restored original cars...mostly B and E bodies will retain value with proper documentation. Driver quality and modified cars will continue to struggle and decrease in value. Just my .02,
 
I own Commercial Real Estate and Investments, Ira's, Etc. And I always buy cars that are numbers matching, mostly drivers as known investment cars, cause I love the hobby and loud Mopar Muscle !!
 
I can say from experience. The kids in high school absolutely love the cars from the 60s/70s. I know because i drop off and pick my girl at school every day and my '69 Barracuda gets nothing but "thumbs up" and cell phone pics, like a celebrity . I even gets young kids (16 -18) ask if it's for sale or how much I want for the car.
I think many of the kids nowadays wish they had grown up in the 60s!! My daughter, who turned 16 a few months ago, is waiting for me to finish her dream car...1959 Studebaker Silver Hawk. Now, don't underestimate my daughter, what she really wanted was a Mopar. She wanted the "Christine" car. She wanted exactly like the one in the movie. I would have loved to get her one and fix it up but the car was just too big for her to drive and park in the school parking lot. Since she wanted a car with wings her second choice was the Silver Hawk!!
Just need to hook up a few more wires and put the stereo system in there and she can start driving her Studebaker to High School.

Treblig
 

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There are some things that are appreciated after the generation that admired them has passed - a North American P-51 Mustang is a good example.
But I think that our cars will be considered wasteful, dirty and unsafe; driving and owning one could be as socially unacceptable as wearing a huge fur coat.
 
SSVDP said:
There are some things that are appreciated after the generation that admired them has passed - a North American P-51 Mustang is a good example.
But I think that our cars will be considered wasteful, dirty and unsafe; driving and owning one could be as socially unacceptable as wearing a huge fur coat.
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Studebakers are kick as$ !!!!!
 
I feel that as us Baby Boomers die off, the value of Muscle Cars will decrease in value, just like the Model T, A, etc. did. The reason for this is that Hobbyists tend to buy what was on the road, in their younger days. -- Not saying that there are not younger folks owning Muscle cars. -- It seems that quality Muscle Cars at car shows are owned mainly by the Baby Boomer Group. -- Just my 2 cents. -- Merry Christmas
 
Hey!!!! I resemble that remark!!!!
Besides, even though the young kids love the old cars they can't afford them like "The Old Geezers!!!"
Treblig
 
Treblig said:
I can say from experience. The kids in high school absolutely love the cars from the 60s/70s. I know because i drop off and pick my girl at school every day and my '69 Barracuda gets nothing but "thumbs up" and cell phone pics, like a celebrity . I even gets young kids (16 -18) ask if it's for sale or how much I want for the car.
I think many of the kids nowadays wish they had grown up in the 60s!! My daughter, who turned 16 a few months ago, is waiting for me to finish her dream car...1959 Studebaker Silver Hawk. Now, don't underestimate my daughter, what she really wanted was a Mopar. She wanted the "Christine" car. She wanted exactly like the one in the movie. I would have loved to get her one and fix it up but the car was just too big for her to drive and park in the school parking lot. Since she wanted a car with wings her second choice was the Silver Hawk!!
Just need to hook up a few more wires and put the stereo system in there and she can start driving her Studebaker to High School.

Treblig
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Good for you! you are a good dad! I want to give my granddaughter my Comet but my DIL wont let her drive it because it doesnt have airbags & such--------But she will be the one who winds up with it!:snakeman:
 
75slant6 said:
I'm 21 and I plan on having, buying, building muscle cars till I die!! Be that tmrw or when I'm 80!!
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I hope you do, but don't underestimate life's curve balls like marriage, kids, career changes etc... Saving for retirement now can put you in a good position for buying high end muscle cars when your in your late 40's 50's.
 
69DARTWANTED said:
So. With the baby boomers in their 60's now, how will the future of the collector car values look in your opinion??

I know the old school Model A's, T's etc really took a dump on value.

Personally I feel even the kids today can look at a vintage muscle car and see it as a "cool" car.

Any and all opinions appreciated. I look at my cars as not only a great time, and hobby....but also sadly, as investments.
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T and A's really had no pizazz or horsepower to appeal to younger folks.

Muscle cars have a broader appeal, even if the teens of today didn't grow up with them. I think resto mods will keep the value of 60/70's cars.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I say this. we buy cars we can afford, NOT always want we really want!?? if a H S kid can afford a runnin driving 2002 stang for say $3500, he might rather have an old mopar, but would have say, $5000 in it running/driving and it still looks like poop!?? lot of us "older people" might rather have a 440-6 '70 cuda but we can't afford it!? ha
back when I was a h s kid in mid/ later sixties, small town s. ga. a few kids had an after school job that enabled them to drive a new car. 66 chevelle 396, 66 ford galaxie 390... most kids drove whatever hand me down dad or grand dad gave us. a couple actually built them a car out of the boneyard.

now days dad gives most of them a new one or pretty new. they want them safe. no doubt. and they want to happy! a few dads have kids that are given the option to drive or restore an old car, but its the exception no doubt!? if my grandkids didn't live 250 mi away, I would give them the option to work on an old car IF they had a real interest in it. I would still require them to get an after school job to help pay for it.

these old cars are one of my passions in ilfe. toys. when I kick the bucket, the kids/grandkids can do what they want with them. I won't care!?? if I know they will have no interest in them , I rather sell them to someone that will love them, before I cash it all in!
 
I think 70's muscle car values will rise. My first car was a 74 Plymouth Duster and I'm 47. As guys my age retire with extra money. We will purchase the cars we owned in our youth- 70's Muscle. I just picked up another 74 and love it. I also noticed a six cylinder Duster sold for more than I have ever seen before (Barrett Jackson) 27,000! Wow
 
DesertRat said:
Good for you! you are a good dad! I want to give my granddaughter my Comet but my DIL wont let her drive it because it doesnt have airbags & such--------But she will be the one who winds up with it!:snakeman:
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Believe me, I had the same problem. The only way I could let my girl have an old classic was to promise to my wife that I'd make the car as safe as possible (disc brakes, modern engine, shoulder harness seat belts, power steering, etc, etc, etc. So now the '59 Stude now has a brand new Chevy 350, 700R4, P/S, P/B, A/C, so that she can easily get it fixed after I'm gone.

Treblig
 
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I think 70's muscle car values will rise. My first car was a 74 Plymouth Duster and I'm 47. As guys my age retire with extra money. We will purchase the cars we owned in our youth- 70's Muscle. I just picked up another 74 and love it. I also noticed a six cylinder Duster sold for more than I have ever seen before (Barrett Jackson) 27,000! Wow
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I tend to agree with you. I'm 52 and when I was in my early 20s I had many '68-'75 Mopars. They were cheap back then and I used to spend countless hours roaming the junk yards for parts and buying $100 parts cars for the bits I wanted. Many of the early teen agers back then were doing the same thing 10 years later when they were in their 20s. Today I have a '69 Dart GTS again that is the near twin to one I owned 30 years ago.

Folks like us will keep the love of these cars going for another 20-30 years easily...and given the appeal they seem to have for the under 30 crowd over on the various Modern Mopar Forums, it will last a lot longer than that!

They drool when they see my '69 GTS parked next to my '06 Charger SRT-8 and they want to own both! :)
 

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I say this. we buy cars we can afford, NOT always want we really want!?? if a H S kid can afford a runnin driving 2002 stang for say $3500, he might rather have an old mopar, but would have say, $5000 in it running/driving and it still looks like poop!?? lot of us "older people" might rather have a 440-6 '70 cuda but we can't afford it!? ha
back when I was a h s kid in mid/ later sixties, small town s. ga. a few kids had an after school job that enabled them to drive a new car. 66 chevelle 396, 66 ford galaxie 390... most kids drove whatever hand me down dad or grand dad gave us. a couple actually built them a car out of the boneyard.

now days dad gives most of them a new one or pretty new. they want them safe. no doubt. and they want to happy! a few dads have kids that are given the option to drive or restore an old car, but its the exception no doubt!? if my grandkids didn't live 250 mi away, I would give them the option to work on an old car IF they had a real interest in it. I would still require them to get an after school job to help pay for it.

these old cars are one of my passions in ilfe. toys. when I kick the bucket, the kids/grandkids can do what they want with them. I won't care!?? if I know they will have no interest in them , I rather sell them to someone that will love them, before I cash it all in!
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X2 my first car was a hand me down from my grandpa 65 coronet.
I totaled it a few years later and bought a $400 69 dodge van.

I also bought a wrecked 71 challenger for $250 and fixed it while beating the old van.
Kept the challenger for 11 years, and when car prices skyrocked in the 90's sold it for a good profit, very stupid. Still looking for a decent 71 to replace it with.
 
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