rod7515
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This member (superbeesrt8) listed an edelbrock top end for sale here on the forum which i replied to the thread and told him PM sent and I contacted him through our Pm here on Abodies to see if he would sell the heads separately. He replied back to me that he would sell the Heads, rockers and headbolts for $1350 plus shipping. At this time he also told me the heads were not his but a friends he had done work for and he was selling them for him.
I replied back and offered him $1250 shipped as you can see in my PM to him below.
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Id be interested at $1250 shipped to 17356??? not trying to lowball but I have a very tight budget. Thanks for the consideration.
Rod
He replied back saying ok if I paid shipping and insurance in which I replied back to him saying my offer was $1250 including the shipping as you can see below.
(I dont know how to copy this pm in any smaller form, sorry.)(let me know how and I will)
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My $1250 offer was including the shipping. Sorry for confusion.
Rod
He then replied back telling me he would check with the owner of the heads and later got back and said they would sell at that price and then we would split shipping which was around $90. I sent him a payment thru Paypal for $1300 and he shipped the heads, rockers and head bolts and washers which arrived(12/27) in about 3 days. Good service on that side of the deal but the boxes did not hold up well thru shipping. There was no damage from this but as i took the heads out to look them over I found that the rockers had been ground down on the bottom side which was never mentioned during his replies about the parts and he failed to show this on the pictures he posted. (I call that misrepresenting the product!) Also there were only 18 total head bolts and washers in the shipment but it wasnt just that the 2 missing headbolts/washers werent there, even had he sent 20 bolts and washers he didnt send the correct length bolts to do the job. Here is the pic I sent him on his phone (12/27) thru text immediately once i found this in which he replied back immediately he would check with the owner of the heads, so yes he did get this pic and he knew this was not the correct bolts. (even tho on the for sale ad he denies he got any pic) ( I also sent him a pic of the rockers that had been ground down because my plan was to sell them but now with the grinding on them they are not worth as much, however I did agree to accept them as we text back and forth about these issues through texts.
If someone can tell me how to post pics of his/my texts from my phone I will be happy to post them to show all conversations!
Here are the head bolts I received and this is the pic I sent him the night the heads arrived.
Here is the head bolt kit from edelbrock that is needed. As you can see it takes 3 different length bolts and he sent 8 long bolts and 10 short bolts so this was never correct.
As you can see in this pic of the correct head bolt kit from edelbrock you need 6 medium length bolts and only 4 long bolts. The box had 8 long bolts so they didnt get lost in shipment. They were incorrect from the start because there are only 4 long bolts needed for these edelbrock heads. None of the 6 medium bolts were in the shipment!
Now after he was checking with the friend we contacted back and forth from Tuesday 12/27 until i finally got a tough luck answer from him last evening 1/5. Thats more then a week to get an answer. During this time is when he started complaining about the paypal 3% which i told him during our conversations that he had never ask for it to be a payment as friends because had he wanted that I would not have made the deal because i would not have had any protection for a bad deal like this is turning out to be.
So not having an answer from him in 11 days since i first contacted him on 12/27 (and at least 5 times I contacted him during those 11 days, I finally sent him another text last night at 7 PM that said "What do we know about the head bolts?"'
He replied back at 10:46 with this message "he does not then said they were in the box". Which made no sense as an answer but he was referring to what his friend told him I guess. Thats when I told him they were not there and if he checked the pics again he could see they were never sent correctly or as a set. His friend was not telling him the truth or he was not telling me the truth! Then i was told to send them back and once he received them he would send me a refund to which i said no i will be filing a paypal claim. (this is the reason you dont send money as a friend in these deals). Good thing I used the normal item bought pay method through paypal!
I then offered to him if his friend sends me money for head bolts I would accept as completed deal. This is when he sent me the classic response and I quote " they not my heads I sold them for him you can buy the on ebay for 68 dollars and he lost the 3 percent by paying the paypal i just sold some parts today and the guy bought them said i'll send friend to friend for some reason you made him pay 3 percent" (sure hope he stands behind that deal better then this one!)
Once i got that reply i knew this was not going to be resolved. I then made him aware that i was going to file a paypal claim and also post this deal on the forum here at A bodies to warn others about his dealings. And I told him it was up to him if I would go to this extent. His reply was "Have a good night" So here is the warning to others that this member superbeesrt8 can not be trusted in his transactions.
Sorry this got so long, and some may ask why not send them back since he offered a refund. Well first when you already have experienced a bad deal that he won't make right you dont let him have a second chance at doing it again to you. His refund said and again I will quote from my text "send them back when i get them back i'll refund your money" Would you take that chance? he already proved he is not a trustworthy or honest seller!
As for the head bolt kits on ebay the least expensive one i found was from ARP (on ebay) @ $81.95. Which again i told him if his friend sent me the money to buy a set i would accept. As for the $150 on the sale thread he refers to, that is correct as when i first looked i looked at edelbrocks pricing. Then in a text he told me i could buy them for $68 on ebay and when I ask for the link to those he never sent or replied back for me to find them at that price. which I still have not found.
Again Buyer beware, this member, superbeesrt8 does not deal very honestly. Not very trustworthy to this point.
Now if superbeesrt8 wants to send me the money for a set of bolts or send me a complete set of bolts I would be happy to retract all this. Either way is fine with me.
Rod
I replied back and offered him $1250 shipped as you can see in my PM to him below.
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Id be interested at $1250 shipped to 17356??? not trying to lowball but I have a very tight budget. Thanks for the consideration.
Rod
He replied back saying ok if I paid shipping and insurance in which I replied back to him saying my offer was $1250 including the shipping as you can see below.
(I dont know how to copy this pm in any smaller form, sorry.)(let me know how and I will)
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My $1250 offer was including the shipping. Sorry for confusion.
Rod
He then replied back telling me he would check with the owner of the heads and later got back and said they would sell at that price and then we would split shipping which was around $90. I sent him a payment thru Paypal for $1300 and he shipped the heads, rockers and head bolts and washers which arrived(12/27) in about 3 days. Good service on that side of the deal but the boxes did not hold up well thru shipping. There was no damage from this but as i took the heads out to look them over I found that the rockers had been ground down on the bottom side which was never mentioned during his replies about the parts and he failed to show this on the pictures he posted. (I call that misrepresenting the product!) Also there were only 18 total head bolts and washers in the shipment but it wasnt just that the 2 missing headbolts/washers werent there, even had he sent 20 bolts and washers he didnt send the correct length bolts to do the job. Here is the pic I sent him on his phone (12/27) thru text immediately once i found this in which he replied back immediately he would check with the owner of the heads, so yes he did get this pic and he knew this was not the correct bolts. (even tho on the for sale ad he denies he got any pic) ( I also sent him a pic of the rockers that had been ground down because my plan was to sell them but now with the grinding on them they are not worth as much, however I did agree to accept them as we text back and forth about these issues through texts.
If someone can tell me how to post pics of his/my texts from my phone I will be happy to post them to show all conversations!
Here are the head bolts I received and this is the pic I sent him the night the heads arrived.
Here is the head bolt kit from edelbrock that is needed. As you can see it takes 3 different length bolts and he sent 8 long bolts and 10 short bolts so this was never correct.
As you can see in this pic of the correct head bolt kit from edelbrock you need 6 medium length bolts and only 4 long bolts. The box had 8 long bolts so they didnt get lost in shipment. They were incorrect from the start because there are only 4 long bolts needed for these edelbrock heads. None of the 6 medium bolts were in the shipment!
Now after he was checking with the friend we contacted back and forth from Tuesday 12/27 until i finally got a tough luck answer from him last evening 1/5. Thats more then a week to get an answer. During this time is when he started complaining about the paypal 3% which i told him during our conversations that he had never ask for it to be a payment as friends because had he wanted that I would not have made the deal because i would not have had any protection for a bad deal like this is turning out to be.
So not having an answer from him in 11 days since i first contacted him on 12/27 (and at least 5 times I contacted him during those 11 days, I finally sent him another text last night at 7 PM that said "What do we know about the head bolts?"'
He replied back at 10:46 with this message "he does not then said they were in the box". Which made no sense as an answer but he was referring to what his friend told him I guess. Thats when I told him they were not there and if he checked the pics again he could see they were never sent correctly or as a set. His friend was not telling him the truth or he was not telling me the truth! Then i was told to send them back and once he received them he would send me a refund to which i said no i will be filing a paypal claim. (this is the reason you dont send money as a friend in these deals). Good thing I used the normal item bought pay method through paypal!
I then offered to him if his friend sends me money for head bolts I would accept as completed deal. This is when he sent me the classic response and I quote " they not my heads I sold them for him you can buy the on ebay for 68 dollars and he lost the 3 percent by paying the paypal i just sold some parts today and the guy bought them said i'll send friend to friend for some reason you made him pay 3 percent" (sure hope he stands behind that deal better then this one!)
Once i got that reply i knew this was not going to be resolved. I then made him aware that i was going to file a paypal claim and also post this deal on the forum here at A bodies to warn others about his dealings. And I told him it was up to him if I would go to this extent. His reply was "Have a good night" So here is the warning to others that this member superbeesrt8 can not be trusted in his transactions.
Sorry this got so long, and some may ask why not send them back since he offered a refund. Well first when you already have experienced a bad deal that he won't make right you dont let him have a second chance at doing it again to you. His refund said and again I will quote from my text "send them back when i get them back i'll refund your money" Would you take that chance? he already proved he is not a trustworthy or honest seller!
As for the head bolt kits on ebay the least expensive one i found was from ARP (on ebay) @ $81.95. Which again i told him if his friend sent me the money to buy a set i would accept. As for the $150 on the sale thread he refers to, that is correct as when i first looked i looked at edelbrocks pricing. Then in a text he told me i could buy them for $68 on ebay and when I ask for the link to those he never sent or replied back for me to find them at that price. which I still have not found.
Again Buyer beware, this member, superbeesrt8 does not deal very honestly. Not very trustworthy to this point.
Now if superbeesrt8 wants to send me the money for a set of bolts or send me a complete set of bolts I would be happy to retract all this. Either way is fine with me.
Rod
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