oldmopardude
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Needless to say, if you tow, Diesel is it. Also, I paid 40k for that truck in 2012, and today the dealer offered 35k sight unseen. so resale is a big factor.
I don’t know about that my 07 5.9 had 285 k on it when I sold it to a farmer in Mi. 2 yrs ago. Still going strong. But I did have to put a water pump on it at 248k.Here is my recommendations
Diesel only
5.9 will get the best mileage hands down
6.7 makes a lot more power.
If you go the 5.9 route. DO NOT BUY A 2003 1/2 TO 2007!!!!!!!!!!
And here is my statement! I REPLACED MORE ENGINES IN THAT YEAR TIME FRAME THEN I DID ALL THE DIESELS BEFORE AND AFTER THAT TIME COMBINED.
Not saying you can't get 250,000 out of them years, but you better not chip it, And you had better have bought it new, and your maintenance must be superior. Rant OFF
With all that said i would still buy a 2004-07 Dodge before any year Ford of Chiv Diesel.(But i may be a little prejudiced)
Ive got a 13,000 lbs,box truck that does better than that, and its got the worst diesel ever, the 6 liter ford.I have a 6.4 in a 3500 ram, it pulls everything fine, but it is a thirsty pig, 10 mpg empty or loaded.
It sucks so much fuel it is only used for towing, no daily driving this truck.
plus the safety of the engine brake and Tow/haul6.4 hemi is a 4.10 gear, no thanks with the 8mpg towing maybe 15 on the freeway
I have an 06 2500 5.9 Cummins it gets 16mpg loaded & 20 mpg at 70 mph.
Agreedplus the safety of the engine brake and Tow/haul
Agreed
But the eng brake was only a dealer install, and only on standard transmissions. come standard on all 6.7
2012 is a 6.7 2008 on, are 6.7'snot true, the 2012 Ram Cummins comes standard with the engine brake, both on Automatic and Manual transmission, Installed by Chrysler as standard equipment on all Cummins equipped Trucks 2012.
very true, I began towing with A 2500 with a 5.9 Cummins since 1996 thru 2002, and the 5.9 3500 from 2003 thru 2006, then the 6.7 from 2007 to the present 2012, and I still own that one. The 96 I had ran a Jacobs brake Installed by the Cummins Dealer in Phoenix, and it was a Godsend on that truck if you were heading in any Direction out of Phoenix.2012 is a 6.7 2008 on, are 6.7's
Yup I have the Ram air suspension on my 2020 2500. Love it. Also I would recommend the Ram boxes.Let me throw another monkey wrench into the equation: I think if I'm going to spend this kind of money for the big diesel, I would like to have the load leveling system. Apparently it is not available on the 6.4 hemi models, only the diesel.
Let me throw another monkey wrench into the equation: I think if I'm going to spend this kind of money for the big diesel, I would like to have the load leveling system. Apparently it is not available on the 6.4 hemi models, only the diesel.
Most Cummins are 3:54 geared. I have a 95 3500 bought new, 230,000 mi all pulling pretty big gooseneck horse/stock trailers. A car trailer loaded is nothing for it. It has 4:10 gears and has never puled a trailer in anything BUT OD! Trans is perfect. But I agree with your statement. BUT IF I tried to run the roads in 3rd I would be going 50 tops!!!!! I get about 5 mi per gal less than what a 3:54 would get.I picked up a '90 one ton last August, Cummins with a 5 -speed.
LOVE IT.
But one way or the other, do not tow in overdrive unless you plan on replacing your transmission.
I drove it from PA to VA to get this '70, mileage on the way home loaded was 14.5
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Agree 100%Now, the old Getrag speed pulling in OD is a NO NO!!
Yeah absolutelyplus the safety of the engine brake and Tow/haul
Depends on the year, from 06 up 2500s are 3.73 & a AAM 11.5 rear diff. Maybe Dana 80 in 1 ton still have 3.54 thoughMost Cummins are 3:54 geared. I have a 95 3500 bought new, 230,000 mi all pulling pretty big gooseneck horse/stock trailers. A car trailer loaded is nothing for it. It has 4:10 gears and has never puled a trailer in anything BUT OD! Trans is perfect. But I agree with your statement. BUT IF I tried to run the roads in 3rd I would be going 50 tops!!!!! I get about 5 mi per gal less than what a 3:54 would get.
For a diesel to be worth the cost, you need to pull a load and put many miles on it. Mine is just broke in, but at its age , sooner or later the brake lines will rot off!!!!! or radiator rot out! or>>>>>>>
By the way, when the AT trans goes out, many times it is the brain box!!! not the trans.
Now, the old Getrag speed pulling in OD is a NO NO!!
for sure, my 2012 3500 is 3:54 ratioDepends on the year, from 06 up 2500s are 3.73 & a AAM 11.5 rear diff. Maybe Dana 80 in 1 ton still have 3.54 though