NASCAR has done it this time !

[Woody500]

I lived a 2 mile walk from IMS for many years. We went to the first 3 Brickyard 400s after 30 straight Indianapolis 500s, some as a participant('83 winning pit crew) and sat in our same Penthouse seats. We were excited to get another race at the time, as we also were about 10 yrs later for the first F1 race(oh, the sound of those V10s! Awesome!) and the droning slowness of the cars going by was a great disappointment.
After the Third Brickyard where the droning put me to sleep in my $300 folding chair, I decided I'd had enough fun, & never attended again. I still wanted to go to Bristol for the action & never got there before it was repaved & ruined.

 

[Inertia]

I don't give a **** about vehicle brands,
I just enjoy great racing.
Pavement, dirt, makes no difference .
I'm a Penske fan. It killed me when he was forced to go ferd.
But anything Penske does. He does do very well.

If you quit watching racing cuzza brand name, you missed a lotta great racing .

Your loss .

 

[mopar head]

Whatever sleepyhead

put me to sleep in my $300 folding chair,

That`s a roll eyes emoji, here`s another

 

[nutz]

I lived a 2 mile walk from IMS for many years. We went to the first 3 Brickyard 400s after 30 straight Indianapolis 500s, some as a participant('83 winning pit crew) and sat in our same Penthouse seats. We were excited to get another race at the time, as we also were about 10 yrs later for the first F1 race(oh, the sound of those V10s! Awesome!) and the droning slowness of the cars going by was a great disappointment.
After the Third Brickyard where the droning put me to sleep in my $300 folding chair, I decided I'd had enough fun, & never attended again. I still wanted to go to Bristol for the action & never got there before it was repaved & ruined.

Bristol was great 25 years ago
Not a bad seat
Martinsville was the best I've ever been to
Its like they are in your living room
You can see the expressions on there face
Or could with open helmets

 

[ESP47]

Bristol was great 25 years ago
Not a bad seat
Martinsville was the best I've ever been to
Its like they are in your living room
You can see the expressions on there face
Or could with open helmets

I don't understand why they screwed Bristol up. It was the highest banked track on the circuit, had one groove racing that mostly required bump and run passing and every race was exciting chaos. The August night race there was unofficially one of the most popular races on the schedule. For whatever reason, the track owners decided that the fans in the sold out stands wanted a different type of racing than what Bristol provided so they grinded the banking down, gave the turns variable banking so the cars could run side by side and gave the fans a product that no one asked for.

There used to be a long wait to get Bristol tickets and now the stands are half full. Perfect example of if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

 

[Woody500]

That`s a roll eyes emoji, here`s another

Ouch

 

[nutz]

I don't understand why they screwed Bristol up. It was the highest banked track on the circuit, had one groove racing that mostly required bump and run passing and every race was exciting chaos. The August night race there was unofficially one of the most popular races on the schedule. For whatever reason, the track owners decided that the fans in the sold out stands wanted a different type of racing than what Bristol provided so they grinded the banking down, gave the turns variable banking so the cars could run side by side and gave the fans a product that no one asked for.

There used to be a long wait to get Bristol tickets and now the stands are half full. Perfect example of if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Yeah it was the most exciting race of the year.....

 

[dirty white boy]

So why didn't the factory make the 305s rev to the moon to make up for the lost air, as horsepower is actually about how much Air you can move through the pump? Pump more air(RPM) & add more fuel = same HP as 426.
And the sound it would make at RPMs would've changed nascar, or caused an RPM rule!

because the engine was only restricted ci wise in a wing car, still legal in any other mopar body!!

 

[dirty white boy]

I lived a 2 mile walk from IMS for many years. We went to the first 3 Brickyard 400s after 30 straight Indianapolis 500s, some as a participant('83 winning pit crew) and sat in our same Penthouse seats. We were excited to get another race at the time, as we also were about 10 yrs later for the first F1 race(oh, the sound of those V10s! Awesome!) and the droning slowness of the cars going by was a great disappointment.
After the Third Brickyard where the droning put me to sleep in my $300 folding chair, I decided I'd had enough fun, & never attended again. I still wanted to go to Bristol for the action & never got there before it was repaved & ruined.

you should try dirt track racing!!

 

[Killer6]

So why didn't the factory make the 305s rev to the moon to make up for the lost air, as horsepower is actually about how much Air you can move through the pump? Pump more air(RPM) & add more fuel = same HP as 426.
And the sound it would make at RPMs would've changed nascar, or caused an RPM rule!

They did & it did, ......the transmission failed, You do the math on the increased sustained RPM's, they weren't worked out to handle that yet.....

 

[Woody500]

you should try dirt track racing!!

Among others I've been to is Paragon Speedway & saw the Kinsers run one night, Bob, Steve, and Mark, not sure if Sheldon was there but I was at Texas World Speedway,(College Station) in 1979 when Sheldon finished a career best 3rd in Champ Cars(as they were called then)& no doubt saw him in the Hoosier Hundred dirt Champ race at least once. I worked for Grant King & we ran Chuck Gurney( 14 career victories & Champ in 1989) he was qualified fast near front, so we thought we had a chance in the race until till he hit first turn fence on first lap, IIRC!
Indiana has a lot of dirt tracks

 

[famous bob]

thay didnt outlaw the wing cars or the hemi,...thay restricted it to 305 ci!!! tottle bullchit!!

that's not the same thing ?? they knew NO 305 could run with the big motors of that era , they couldn't run with the smaller motors of this day...

 

[famous bob]

ev

I don't give a **** about vehicle brands,
I just enjoy great racing.
Pavement, dirt, makes no difference .
I'm a Penske fan. It killed me when he was forced to go ferd.
But anything Penske does. He does do very well.

If you quit watching racing cuzza brand name, you missed a lotta great racing .

Your loss .

everyone is entitled to there opinion , that's yours ..

 

[Professor Fate]

that's not the same thing ?? they knew NO 305 could run with the big motors of that era , they couldn't run with the smaller motors of this day...

I think a 305 coming back from 2 laps down to finish 7th qualifies as "running with the big motors" and proves the combination could be competitive, at least on the superspeedways. The reason this combination did not continue is because the aero bodies would "age out" after 1971/2 (three year old bodies were the max at the time, and the '69-'70 aero cars were already at the end of their lifespan) and wasn't really worth the costs associated with continued development of the combination. Most (Mopar) teams had already made the transition to the Charger and Roadrunner, which could still run the Hemi engine that was a proven combination that had already had substantial development done to it, and would be able to run the combination for another three seasons.

 

[jrc4y4]

I’ve tried my whole life (36 years) to get into nascar. Was excited when dodge came back. Pick a driver. But it’s just so stinking boring. My gf’s family in HS took me to a Busch race. Gave me the headphones to listen to drivers. I fell asleep lol. I like going to dirt track races. Drag strip. Car shows. Street races. But nascar in person and on tv I just can’t get into. No idea why. Every few years I give it another whirl and nope. Nothing against you guys who enjoy it. I’m glad you do. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Inertia]

It may be different if you have a specific driver or team to follow/cheer.

I often record the race and replay it at extra speed till something exciting happens. 4 hrs with many cautions can wear on even the most avid viewer.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Geez. I you like it, watch it. If you don't like it, watch somethin else.

 

[Yunick13]

Ram expected to make a return to the Truck series:

https://www.jayski.com/2025/06/07/steve-phelps-still-optimistic-about-adding-manufacturer-to-nascar/

 

[Oldiron440]

If you can wait it’s on YouTube a few hours after the race is over.

 

[harrisonm]

Yet another example of a sport and/or its athletes thinking that they are SO special and better than everybody else, that they can dictate their terms of what the fans are entitled to. do you remember the Major League baseball strike several years ago. MLB thought they were so special that if they withheld their precious games, the fans would scream for their return. Several players said, "We don't need the fans" while being interviewed. I don't really like sports anyway. I never watch any of them on TV. I can't stand it when they pull crap like this.

 

[missing linc]

Yet another example of a sport and/or its athletes thinking that they are SO special and better than everybody else, that they can dictate their terms of what the fans are entitled to. do you remember the Major League baseball strike several years ago. MLB thought they were so special that if they withheld their precious games, the fans would scream for their return. Several players said, "We don't need the fans" while being interviewed. I don't really like sports anyway. I never watch any of them on TV. I can't stand it when they pull crap like this.

Of course they don't need the fans, the owners all have money trees.

 

[Killer6]

Once upon a time there was a King:

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[Killer6]

 

[NC Engine Builder]

Ram expected to make a return to the Truck series:

https://www.jayski.com/2025/06/07/steve-phelps-still-optimistic-about-adding-manufacturer-to-nascar/

With Chevrolet LS based engines. No thanks

 

[Killer6]

With Chevrolet LS based engines. No thanks

Talk about a nose-job....