No need to be self righteous, is it possible to ask questions and learn something here? Every time someone chimes in with their holy than thou attitude. I was asking questions, to which you’ve provided no proof other than your opinion. I’m not even arguing with you. A curve would involve less timing and you say I’m losing power by not using a curve…. So yes you did say that.
Now, I don’t have the springs or bushings so I’m working with what I have, currently. I have considered switching to a curve but I’ve never heard that locking out the timing loses power.
What “proof” do you want? Your question makes the assumption that I come on here and make **** up.
There are many videos, some of them mine are all over YouTube PROVING these boxes retard.
The problem is no two boxes, even the same part number boxes won’t start to retard at the same rpm and they most likely won’t retard the same amount.
That’s why I said you have no clue what your timing is unless you verify it at at least every 1000 rpm.
Depending on your rpm, your engine may only have 30-31 degrees at max rpm. Maybe less, maybe a bit more depending on YOUR PARTICULAR BOX.
That’s the FACT. I know the rail birds and shoe polish tuners will argue the point but it’s easily proven.
That means that the guys who actually use a timing light at the track still have no idea what their actual timing is.
So you at a minimum need to clean that up if you refuse to use a curve.
You didn’t say what your max rpm is, where peak torque and peak power occur, how much compression you have and what cylinder heads you have. So how am I supposed to educate you on your engine? Because we are taking about YOUR engine, and they aren’t all the same.
We also don’t know your converter stall speed. That matters.
The simple FACT is, and this was proven decades ago that engines want LESS timing at peak torque and MORE timing at peak power.
How does that happen if you lock out the timing??
I’m not saying you won’t end up at 36 total, but unless you are running shitty heads, big rpm or both 36 is pretty high for a good chamber.
So you can lock out your timing, spend money on a retard box so you can start it and you still won’t know what your actual timing is. And I promise you the engine will be down 20-25 on torque and 25-30 hp at peak power.
I see it on the dyno all the time. BTW, if you go to a dyno and they don’t develop a curve or don’t know how to do it find a better dyno shop.
