What is it with some people..

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I have no problem with people PMing about a possible part for sale from a post.

If I see someone talking about a particular part (not in a wanted ad) and some one says I have that pm me. I have no problem PMing the person. Pointing out that I'm not the original poster but if he doesn't make a deal with the original poster I might be interested.

Wanted posts I find are mostly useless unless the person with a part HAPPENS to see my wanted post. And with the speed with which post fall of the home page do to people posting 10-20 ads at a time, wanted ads are a bit of a waste.

Stepping down from my soap box.
 
Kemper said:
It's a question of why would you have to DM somebody in that situation or many others. Do you get the point now of having to watch what you say ? That's what I'm talking about.
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i fail to understand why you wouldn't want to talk with them privately? why would you junk up somebody's thread with a parts ask when they're talking about something else entirely, that's just rude.

i don't get the feeling you have to watch what you say around here at all. there's clear rules about what's allowed and what isn't allowed.
 
junkyardhero said:
there's clear rules about what's allowed and what isn't allowed.
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junkyardhero said:
i fail to understand why you wouldn't want to talk with them privately? why would you junk up somebody's thread with a parts ask when they're talking about something else entirely, that's just rude.

i don't get the feeling you have to watch what you say around here at all. there's clear rules about what's allowed and what isn't allowed.
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It's a matter of having to talk to them privately . It's not a matter of an alternative . For example and there are countless others-
A member is showing off their car and you notice they are mising the jack stand . You might just want to say while the issue and opportunity to do something good for both parties is there, I have a jack stand that I can sell you for 25 bucks if you're interested, let me know.
You're contradicting yourself when you say - " i don't get the feeling you have to watch what you say around here at all. there's clear rules about what's allowed and what isn't allowed. " It's the rule that keeps someone from doing what I said and when you add up all the scenarios it shows how limited a member is in those regards.
 
Kemper said:
It's a matter of having to talk to them privately . It's not a matter of an alternative . For example and there are countless others-
A member is showing off their car and you notice they are mising the jack stand . You might just want to say while the issue and opportunity to do something good for both parties is there, I have a jack stand that I can sell you for 25 bucks if you're interested, let me know.
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why? is every moment an opportunity to sell somebody something?

so then that opens the door for everybody else to say: oh $25? for a jack stand?!? it better be GOLD plated!! LOL! you can get a pair cheaper at harbor freight, etc. etc. etc.

i wouldn't take it beyond being legitimately concerned about sombody's safety: hey bud, looks like you're missing a jack stand under there. might'n be a good idea to throw one in.

Kemper said:
You're contradicting yourself when you say - " i don't get the feeling you have to watch what you say around here at all. there's clear rules about what's allowed and what isn't allowed. " It's the rule that keeps someone from doing what I said and when you add up all the scenarios it shows how limited a member is in those regards.
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how is that a contradiction? i, as in me personally don't feel as if i have to watch what i say. i also am not running around trying to sell people jack stands if i see that they're missing them or interrupting a thread with a parts ask on something i see in the back ground... so i don't see that as a problem or a "limitation" that needs to be solved.
 
junkyardhero said:
i fail to understand why you wouldn't want to talk with them privately? why would you junk up somebody's thread with a parts ask when they're talking about something else entirely, that's just rude.

i don't get the feeling you have to watch what you say around here at all. there's clear rules about what's allowed and what isn't allowed.
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Remember the Billy Preston song from LONG ago



That's what you are going to get here... :lol:
 

Dana67Dart said:
For me this should be the order that a part for sale is determined.

The first to post in the sale ad "PM sent for mirror" gets first dibs

  1. This option makes it pretty easy for everyone to determine who was first.
  2. Then it is up to the seller to make the deal with the first person in the ad.
  3. If the first person doesn't follow through with a PM or reply in 24 hours (or some reasonable time) or declines then the next person inline in the order of the posts in the ad gets a shot.

Its pretty simple and pretty civilized. I have made the mistake on occasion of just sending a PM and the seller doesn't see the PM till after they made a deal with the first to say "PM sent for mirror" That's 100% on me!

ALSO

When sending a PM use the title of the sale ad as your subject, put a link to the sale ad in the PM and follow through.
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You make some good points. That's along the lines I'm talking about. Sellers would have to treat people fairly and in order rather than using their ad to lure people in and then treat them as they wish. Of course if all dealings were done on the open forum ( besides personal info ) it would probably help aleviate ( and eliminate if enough people pointed out ) the problems.

It's not a matter of telling sellers who to sell to as much as it is telling sellers to not jack anybody around. The selling/wanted sections could be used for people that wanted to highlight their wants and what they have for sale . Being forced to talk about and do a transaction there should not be a requirement , but a privilege to those that want to use a more business like setting.
 
junkyardhero said:
why? is every moment an opportunity to sell somebody something?

so then that opens the door for everybody else to say: oh $25? for a jack stand?!? it better be GOLD plated!! LOL! you can get a pair cheaper at harbor freight, etc. etc. etc.

i wouldn't take it beyond being legitimately concerned about sombody's safety: hey bud, looks like you're missing a jack stand under there. might'n be a good idea to throw one in.


how is that a contradiction? i, as in me personally don't feel as if i have to watch what i say. i also am not running around trying to sell people jack stands if i see that they're missing them or interrupting a thread with a parts ask on something i see in the back ground... so i don't see that as a problem or a "limitation" that needs to be solved.
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I was talking about a jack base . If you were at a car show or at cruise and noticed someone was missing theirs , would you consider it improper to tell them you had one if they were interested ? I don't see why you think that is an interruption. It's a limitation here, so don't act like you don't see that, whether or not it concerns you.
 
Kemper said:
I was talking about a jack base . If you were at a car show or at cruise and noticed someone was missing theirs , would you consider it improper to tell them you had one if they were interested ? I don't see why you think that is an interruption. It's a limitation here, so don't act like you don't see that, whether or not it concerns you.
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then you should've said jack base. but my point is still relevant, pointing that out serves no purpose in the thread. it'd be along the same lines of: hey, i see you have old tires, i have some i just took off are you interested? what purpose does that serve?

and yes, i would consider it improper to interrupt a conversation that was already in progress to ask a stranger if they wanted a jack base. because that's what a thread is, it's a conversation.

so again, tell us all how that this is a limitation? is it the persecution that you can't freely insert yourself into the conversation with a non sequitur, thus junking up a thread? is it the annoyance of having to send a DM? is it because you want to do so publicly so that there is an appearance of being a "good guy"?

i guess the question eventually becomes: why does it concern you so much?
 
junkyardhero said:
then you should've said jack base. but my point is still relevant, pointing that out serves no purpose in the thread. it'd be along the same lines of: hey, i see you have old tires, i have some i just took off are you interested? what purpose does that serve?

and yes, i would consider it improper to interrupt a conversation that was already in progress to ask a stranger if they wanted a jack base. because that's what a thread is, it's a conversation.

so again, tell us all how that this is a limitation? is it the persecution that you can't freely insert yourself into the conversation with a non sequitur, thus junking up a thread? is it the annoyance of having to send a DM? is it because you want to do so publicly so that there is an appearance of being a "good guy"?

i guess the question eventually becomes: why does it concern you so much?
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If a conversation were already in progress about the person's car it would not be an interuption to point out that you have a jack base if you notice they are missing one. If we can't agree on that this conversation is useless.
I wouldn't think twice about asking a person if they would be interested in something I saw missing while they were showing their car. I think that could be helpful and probably be appreciated, especially if they were looking for one, even if they didn't bring up the fact they needed one. I can't see where you are coming from . This is not irrational behavior when out talking about cars.

It may be considered irrational and/or at least improper here, by you and some others and it is what it is.
 
Kemper said:
If a conversation were already in progress about the person's car it would not be an interuption to point out that you have a jack base if you notice they are missing one. If we can't agree on that this conversation is useless.
I wouldn't think twice about asking a person if they would be interested in something I saw missing while they were showing their car. I think that could be helpful and probably be appreciated, especially if they were looking for one, even if they didn't bring up the fact they needed one. I can't see where you are coming from . This is not irrational behavior when out talking about cars.

It may be considered irrational and/or at least improper here, by you and some others and it is what it is.
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when i've been at a show or a cruise, every, every, every time some jack wagon came up talking about parts for the car i had was either wrong about what i had, wrong about what they had, a total weirdo, or interrupted what was already a conversation in progress. every time. without fail.

indeed, it is what it is. and i'll give you this much, you are correct in that this conversation is useless because nothing here is going to change, least of all due to what one person considers "a limitation".
 
Kemper said:
But if you needed the part they offered and was looking for it , you should appreciate it. I don't think you can interupt a conversation here unless you can stop somebody from typing.
Calling people jackwagons and weirdos that may have been trying to be helpful may be par for the course, as it relates to you.
Not everybody is like you though and you need to get it in your head that it is a limitation before you can reasonably talk about it.
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and just like that, we're having a reasonable conversation and you have to take it that way.

that's typical for you though, only being civil for so long.

anyway, i'll grant you the divine pleasure of a reply here...

if i needed the part, sure i'd be appreciative of it. but here's the deal: 99.9% it's not going to be right and i'll just have, at best, wasted 10min of my life talking to somebody that *thinks* they know what they're talking about only to be totally and entirely wrong the whole time. or at worst? i'll drive out to somebody's place only for whatever mythical part to be not even close to being right, rusted or damaged beyond repair or for them to try and sell me something else that i don't need at all. thanks but no thanks.

see, i am a reasonable person, but these are MY experiences and no amount of your "what ifs and could be's" are going to change that. i understand not everybody is like me-- some know nothing hacks like to build cars out of bondo and chickenwire-- and i understand that's a limitation for them be it financially or mentally. and that's fine, too.

the point here that i fail to understand is why you think it's okay to introduce a tangent into a thread when it only serves the purpose or motive of one person? especially when that one person could very easily just DM whatever it is they need to discuss. how about you "reasonably talk about that"?
 
Kemper said:
But if you needed the part they offered and was looking for it , you should appreciate it. I don't think you can interupt a conversation here unless you can stop somebody from typing.
Calling people jackwagons and weirdos that may have been trying to be helpful may be par for the course, as it relates to you.
Not everybody is like you though and you need to get it in your head that it is a limitation before you can reasonably talk about it.
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I saw in one of your threads that you’re missing a mig welder, quarter patches and proper body working tools.

I have all of those things, would you like me to work up a price for you? Would that be helpful for you?
 
Kemper said:
It's a question of why would you have to DM somebody in that situation or many others. Do you get the point now of having to watch what you say ? That's what I'm talking about.
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Maybe the dead horse can be your drinking buddy!!?
 
72bluNblu said:
I saw in one of your threads that you’re missing a mig welder, quarter patches and proper body working tools.

I have all of those things, would you like me to work up a price for you? Would that be helpful for you?
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:rofl:
 
Kemper said:
You totally miss the point of preserving a car and get it looking good without spending a lot of money.
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no, i didn't. there wasn't any preservation there. you only iced a turd cake with more turd frosting. total hackery and everybody called you on that. i guess it "looks good" if you're into homecoming parade floats.

Kemper said:
I did it and showed it basically step-by-step and no amount of exaggerating to get your point across will change that.
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there is exactly zero-point-zero percent of exaggeration there, you used bondo and chicken wire, you even showed it and then gloated about it. tell me in what world is that an exaggeration?
Kemper said:
Sorry about your 99.9 % failure rate of dealing with people . Might have something to do with you . What do you think about the OP's concern here ?
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don't feel sorry for me, i'm fine with the .01 %

regarding OP's concern? **** happens. there's scumbags everywhere. and people are fuggin' weirdos. some folks aren't true to their word or lazy or whatever. no amount of forums or "trying to bring it out in the open" is going to change that. people that are incapable of shame aren't going to change, you should know that.
 
72bluNblu said:
I saw in one of your threads that you’re missing a mig welder, quarter patches and proper body working tools.

I have all of those things, would you like me to work up a price for you? Would that be helpful for you?
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savage.

succinct and perfect. 10/10 no notes.
 
junkyardhero said:
no, i didn't. there wasn't any preservation there. you only iced a turd cake with more turd frosting. total hackery and everybody called you on that. i guess it "looks good" if you're into homecoming parade floats.


there is exactly zero-point-zero percent of exaggeration there, you used bondo and chicken wire, you even showed it and then gloated about it. tell me in what world is that an exaggeration?

don't feel sorry for me, i'm fine with the .01 %

regarding OP's concern? **** happens. there's scumbags everywhere. and people are fuggin' weirdos. some folks aren't true to their word or lazy or whatever. no amount of forums or "trying to bring it out in the open" is going to change that. people that are incapable of shame aren't going to change, you should know that.
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" no, i didn't. there wasn't any preservation there. " You lost all credibility when you start out with an outright lie like that .
You seem incapable of looking at situations and comprehending what may be a good option . Your type is fading, but you don't realize it yet.
I'll stand by my preservation of my car as well as my opinion on fixing other things.
 
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