Anybody ever use nitro methane oil as an additive????

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I bought a gallon of lucas 70 weight racing oil at pep boys for $9.00 because
it was half price.
I have used nitromethane oil as an additive in my engines before because i got it real cheap.
They are always heavy weight oil 50w/60w/70w.
It's just a heavy weight oil with an additive package.
Sometimes stores will get it in and it never sells good, so they end up selling it at a discount price.
 
It's just a very heavy oil that has way better additives in it.
The last time i came across some i think it was like 25 cents a quart discounted.
I used it back then at about 1/2 to 1 quart per oil change.
I thought i would get that kind of response.
I thought it would be one of those things that people would be like.
What the ............ :-D
 
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Lucas 70WT Plus Racing Oil

The "PLUS" is for the extra additives above and beyond the normal additive package found in ordinary racing oils. This very excellent product was especially developed to protect top fuel engines. This was tested extensively on the 1996 NHRA circuit and every crew who used it claimed it to the "BEST". 70 PLUS resists fuel dilution like no other oil possibly can. It allows you to maintain oil pressure from one end of the track to the other. If you're into "NITRO" you definitely need to be into LUCAS 70 PLUS.
Key Benefits


  • Has extra additives over and above regular racing oils
  • Resists fuel dilution and maintains oil pressur
 
I think I'll limit any comment to "that's fantastic." I can't think of a single good reason to spend $9 like that. Oil doesnt average its protection. Your greatest protection is only whatever the lowest level oil you put in is. So if you combine 70wt with 30wt, you dont get 50wt protection. You get 30wt protection. Think of oil molecules like golf balls. If you take 100 white ones, and then add 20 orange, the whites don't get an orange tinge. You get whites witha few oranges floating around...
 
Moper.........
If you mix two different weight oils, you will be making a new weight oil.
All oils are blends.
This is just a way of improving the thickness of your oil while adding more additives then you would normally see in a store bought oil.

If you look at it like you are, everything being separated down to the micro level,nothing really ever mixes together.True.
But that's the hole reason it works.
Racing oil just has a lot more protection floating around because of the high performance additive package.

CLICK ON THE ((( TDS ))) PART RIGHT UNDER THE PITCHER OF THE LUCAS OIL BOTTLE.
 
One thing to remember. ........

Nitro engines only run about 10 seconds (not including idle time) between rebuilds. Their oil needs are different than any street engine.
 
..........Think of it this way.......the molecules of the 70 wt r golf ball size, the 30 wt r marble size..........see what i mean........u need bigger clearances on the bearings 2 pass that big molecule thru...........so when its done pumping the thin oil, it will pump the thich oil...LOL..........Kim..........
 
There's no reason to run 70wt oil.
And it wastes a lot of horsepower trying to turn the oil pump with oil that thick.
 
Old Kimmer,
ALL oils are blends period, which is why there are fractionating towers to refine the crude.
But dont take my word for any of this. I Emailed my father in law, who for many years was in charge of Exxons oil research program. He has a PHD and did nothing but develop oil additives.
First the question then the answer:
Dad,
the question has been asked if you mix 50% 70 weight oil with 50% 30 weight oil do you get 50 weight oil or does the engine only see the 30 weight oil first then the 70.
There are some who want to use 70 weight Nitromethane racing oil as an additive because of the extra additives they put in that particular oil.
Andrew
you may be as technical in your answer as you like these guys are all motor heads.
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Dr. Turner:
The weight of the oil is based on viscosity. Therefore, if you mix a 70 grade with a 30 grade you will definitely lower the viscosity grade. The exact weight would have to be determined. However, I would like to point out that the additives in a racing oil are normally designed to combat high temperature oil oxidation and wear. Sludge is normally not a problem since the engine is usually changed out before any sludge would form. This is not the case in city type driving where sludge and varnish are the primary concern along with a good anti-wear additive. I know from experience that the best service station motor oil will normally out perform an oil that is strictly designed for racing when used in over-the-highway type driving. If you desire an oil that will give good performance in both racing and passenger car service, you should purchase a good 100 % synthetic oil such as Mobil 1 which has excellent oil oxidation stability and wear characteristics plus it will also give excellent passenger car performance
 
I'm with the "no good reason to waste money on "nitromethane" oil" crowd.

So it has a lot of additives. But what additives, in it or not in it, are beneficial for a performance passenger car application when the oil is designed for short term use between changes and has to deal with dilution from nitromethane? Also, how will the chemicals used in that oil react with those in the oil it is mixed with? Will it "blend". Will it "react" in a negative fashion? Without extensive testing by qualified people, it's a guessing game. You may be getting by, but that doesn't mean the mix is better for the engine.

I suggest the proper oil for your particular application. Personally, I prefer Amsoil products, some of which have plenty of zinc for flat tappet cam & lifter life.

https://www.amsoil.com/dealer/techservicesbulletin/MotorOil/TSB MO-2007-08-08 Flat Tappet.pdf

Amsoil source & info:
www.thelubepage

I'm kinda curious if the "nitro" oil has zinc & phosphorous & how much. But I still wouldn't consider using it.
 
Sounds to me like it just sounds good telling your buddies or the tuner crowd you have "nitro" oil in your car.

But to each his own.


Chuck
 
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