mopowers
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How are guys shipping intake manifolds now that board game flat rate boxes are not around any more?
Intake Manifold Shipping
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Look into UPS simple rate.They let you use your own box and charge basicly a flat rate on their cubic inch specs.Online only. The people at the UPS store won't know anything about it ! 50 pound limit.
FedEx has a program called One Rate or something similar
pishta
I know I'm right....
I still got a stack of board game boxes. UPS simple rate is CID calculated.
"Even after USPS runs out, the Priority Mail Flat Rate Large Board Game Box will continue to be eligible for flat rate pricing and shippers can continue using it until they run of the box."
"Even after USPS runs out, the Priority Mail Flat Rate Large Board Game Box will continue to be eligible for flat rate pricing and shippers can continue using it until they run of the box."
Don't cheap out on the packaging. One good drop and a valuable intake is a boat anchor.
Who says they ain't around? I gotta frikkin pile of um.
All this talk about using the USPS board game box to ship an intake manifold is comical, just remember: you may expect a seller to go that route, that you should only have to pay that flat rate fee, but the seller decides.
You want to “in the eyes of the USPS” commit fraud (or was it “abuse”) by using that box for something other than a board game etc that’s your prerogative, I don’t give a rip, but the key point is: keep in mind you as a buyer have no recourse if it’s lost or somehow gets damaged. And you can’t insure it. And as a seller, what you gonna do for the buyer at that point?
I’ve had a few buyers (as well as inquiries) of intakes I’ve sold ask about using that box. Nope. The cost is what it is, and it’s insured for the actual selling price.
You want to “in the eyes of the USPS” commit fraud (or was it “abuse”) by using that box for something other than a board game etc that’s your prerogative, I don’t give a rip, but the key point is: keep in mind you as a buyer have no recourse if it’s lost or somehow gets damaged. And you can’t insure it. And as a seller, what you gonna do for the buyer at that point?
I’ve had a few buyers (as well as inquiries) of intakes I’ve sold ask about using that box. Nope. The cost is what it is, and it’s insured for the actual selling price.
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The post office is going to do everything they can to get out from under paying an insurance claim, so why not use the box? They're not going to pay anyway. They refused a claim I made about a game box that was packed well. No bulges, no nothin. Nothing really heavy, either. They simply decided not to pay the claim. So what's the point?
It's not fraud , the name of the box is a suggestion. They (USPS ) say if it fits it ships. And you can add as much insurance as you want. You are just over charging unnecessary fees And no a 440 intake will not fit in it.
As far as lost ,damaged shipping go, my wife usually handles most of this. Here's how to cover your butt.
I keep the sale add till the buyer receives the part.
Try to keep the whole deal on FABO , so you have actual documentation.
Who ever actually paid for the shipping is the only one who can file the claim. Usually the seller because they pay the PO to ship.
We have not stuck the buyer with the loss.
And we haven't been denied any claim, so far.
Now that's a different story with UPS.
They like to stick extra fees on and all we can do is suck it up.
I keep the sale add till the buyer receives the part.
Try to keep the whole deal on FABO , so you have actual documentation.
Who ever actually paid for the shipping is the only one who can file the claim. Usually the seller because they pay the PO to ship.
We have not stuck the buyer with the loss.
And we haven't been denied any claim, so far.
Now that's a different story with UPS.
They like to stick extra fees on and all we can do is suck it up.
I read this on their site sometime in the past when someone said I could ship a Sb W2 Strip Dominator in one. Looking at the dimensions of the Box it was too small for the height of the intake anyway, but their fine print made mention of what I stated. Now, I may be confusing it with something else but I read it that I know. Might be age!
mopowers
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I meant they aren't available at post offices anymore. Of course, they'll still ship them if you have them, so that's good.
My wife recently had an item sent to her and it arrived damaged.
She went to the post office to file a claim and found out the following.
As for the Game Board box...
USPS Discontinues Priority Mail Flat Rate Large Board Game Box
States that the box was intended for the board game industry.
As for shipping an intake manifold in a board game box... IMHO you are looking for trouble. You need 3 inches from the item to the outside of the box in all directions for propper padding.
The intake is heavy, has sharp edges, and I have seen too many heavy items sticking out of their shipping box both from businesses and from online sellers.
She went to the post office to file a claim and found out the following.
- You have to give the post office the broken / damaged item.
- Proof that the item was packaged correctly. Ie the origional packaging
- The only way you can get the original item back is to bid on it IF it shows up on their website where they sell lost or damaged items they paid a claim on.
As for the Game Board box...
USPS Discontinues Priority Mail Flat Rate Large Board Game Box
States that the box was intended for the board game industry.
As for shipping an intake manifold in a board game box... IMHO you are looking for trouble. You need 3 inches from the item to the outside of the box in all directions for propper padding.
The intake is heavy, has sharp edges, and I have seen too many heavy items sticking out of their shipping box both from businesses and from online sellers.
OK just came back from the P.O. Postmaster said it is treated as a large flat rate box up to 70 lbs.
MOPAROFFICIAL
Oogliboogli
Maybe where you live.
Not here and I have pile of board game boxes still and ship bare cylinder heads in them. As for intakes...only low rise stock stuff fits or stock style performers. LD&RPM tear the box open .
I would not ship an aluminum anything that didn't have enough room for padding. Iron stuff you just cut cardboard for the deck, tape it on.. and wrap the head in saran wrap and slide it in. It bulges...but tape it some more and they ship it.
It differs in different counties and states....so you can't always answer every single thing in definites...unless you have a crystal ball of course.
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Oogliboogli
23 dollars and change? Or 26
pishta
I know I'm right....
you ship heads in them? Holy cow...I've shipped 3 intakes (2 iron, 1 AL) in the flat rate large boxes, no problems. Insured? yes...Fraud? That's a joke. If that box was made exclusively for a board game there would not be a 70 lb limit on it. UPS simple rate is competitive if you can get the box the right size. Ive watched a USPS clerk take a package from a lady and stuff it in a flat rate box to save her 8 bucks.
I just make up **** and post it! LOL
But honestly, Im telling you, I read months ago in their rules and regulations (the PDF version somewhere deep in their site, it was there!) regarding the dvd, laptop, game: those flat rate specific boxes (not talking the standard small, medium, large) for anything other than dvd/cd, laptop, game etc. it was there. I may be confusing the term “fraud” with “abuse”
But hey, I already admitted it could just be an age thing...
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OR believing THE INTERNET? I wish I had the time to do that. Seriously
mopowers
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With the alternatives mentioned by some (FedEx One rate, or UPS simple rate), what prices are you guys getting to ship a typical aluminum manifold?
The reason that I started the thread on My old Cop Car, was that a member purchased the DP4B intake I ran on it, std. UPS ground & a long cross-country trip $36 using My Bud w/the salvage yard. Would not fit gameboard box.
Yeah. A box of 25. Scott free. Not even a shipping charge. .......no wonder the post office is bleedin to death. lol
lemondana
BlackDart
I have a cute story about a shipped manifold. I bought a 71 340 TQ intake on Ebay quite a few years ago. My mail lady was a sweetheart, she pulls up in the driveway one day, getting out-I was expecting the box. She said Damn! this thing is heavy, it must be a cast iron intake manifold. I asked her how she knew. Her husband is a street rodder, and she had lifted a manifold before.
The FedEx volume discount I get is passed on to customers so others may vary, but $60 is probably a decent average for the ones I ship. They're around 20-24 pounds usually. I always insure shipments for original market value plus my metal finishing cost (so customers are covered for everything if a forklift runs over it or something) but insurance is nominal ($5-7) compared to a new intake.
I too have never had an insurance claim denied on anything shipped out. Three inches of collapsible material on each side, cooperation with your shipper, saving your paperwork and tracking info, and having pics of all the packing materials and box usually win the day.
One BMW customer's FedEx driver hefted the big long box onto his shoulder and it just kept on going ... right onto my customer's driveway in front of him! His $900 check took about a week from FedEx.
The second was a nightmare, an International Priority Mail to Canada. He didn't tell me one valve cover got a little scratched before filing a claim directly. He put HIMSELF down as the Shipper and the Receiver (???) so it was automatically denied. Once I knew about it, it took several hours getting it straightened out, but he eventually got reimbursed too.
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