Are my upper control arms unusable now? 1973 Dart.

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Demonracer said:
People who ask questions about something and don't post pictures piss a "lot" of the members off. Just because you can't see the problem doesn't mean that some of us can't see it. We do not have a crystal ball, we can't see it from our house, and the list goes on. If you don't want the expertise offered here "for free", go somewhere else and quit wasting our time. Rant over!!!
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I'm slowly catching up with my detractors. If these people are triggered by someone on a forum who won't post pictures, then God help their loved ones that might inadvertently cross them.
I'll get these suspension parts beautifully restored to OEM and installed back on my Dart. Then I'll take pictures that ya'll crave so much, and ya'll can eat crow. Stay tuned for that, haha.
I'm on the TurboDodge and For B bodies only forums occasionally because I'm restoring an '85 Laser and a '67 Coronet respectively and I've never had this much fun.
And lastly, I won't waste your time anymore. Simply stay away from this thread and dont help me. Not that your post had anything that resembled help. Rant over and out, brosephine.
 
I don't see nothing bent in pictures? Not sure which side is suspected to be bent? So guess put it together, see if bushing fits in frame correctly, see if it aligns?
 
dodgemahal said:
I'm slowly catching up with my detractors. If these people are triggered by someone on a forum who won't post pictures, then God help their loved ones that might inadvertently cross them.
I'll get these suspension parts beautifully restored to OEM and installed back on my Dart. Then I'll take pictures that ya'll crave so much, and ya'll can eat crow. Stay tuned for that, haha.
I'm on the TurboDodge and For B bodies only forums occasionally because I'm restoring an '85 Laser and a '67 Coronet respectively and I've never had this much fun.
And lastly, I won't waste your time anymore. Simply stay away from this thread and dont help me. Not that your post had anything that resembled help. Rant over and out, brosephine.
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Please. This whole thread is about your mistake, your lack of knowledge and experience to make a good decision, and you wanting us to make you feel good about yourself. I'll sum this up.

You made a dumb mistake. It happens, we've all been there. But you lack the knowledge/experience to have the confidence to do what you want, which is just run the control arms anyway.

So, you asked a bunch of random strangers on the internet and gave them NO useful information, hoping you'd just get a bunch of people to blindly agree with you so you could feel good about yourself (even if its the wrong choice).

Instead, you actually got some people that have knowledge and experience, and they wanted to HELP you get the RIGHT answer. But since you provided no useful information at all, those people asked questions so they could actually help you make the RIGHT choice. Because not all bent control arms are the same- some can be fixed, some can't, and some shouldn't be.

So what did you do? You got angry, because you'd have to admit how dumb your mistake was, or maybe reveal how extensive your lack of knowledge is. And of course, you might not get the answer you want to hear even if it is the right answer.

Sorry, but we were actually trying to HELP you, not just make you feel good about yourself. Everything I told you was true, it's too bad you just want to feel good about yourself instead of doing a good job.


340sFastback said:
I don't see nothing bent in pictures? Not sure which side is suspected to be bent? So guess put it together, see if bushing fits in frame correctly, see if it aligns?
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Exactly. Someone that knows what they're doing would continue to remove the old shells (more carefully). Then clean and inspect the control arm closely with the old bushing shells removed to see if there's any visible damage. And then, if there isn't any visible damage, press in the new bushings and see if they fit and line up like they're supposed to.

Unfortunately, he doesn't want to make the effort to do all that and find out he's wrong because he doesn't understand why he needs to do that.
 
Dearest 72blu and blow,
I won't be reading your treatise that appears to be as long as "War and Peace". I guess you wasted your time that would have been better spent working on your car. Go do that instead of being a winey B.
 
340sFastback said:
I don't see nothing bent in pictures? Not sure which side is suspected to be bent? So guess put it together, see if bushing fits in frame correctly, see if it aligns?
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Sorry fastback, in post #25 I stated the right arm. I should have said the trailing arm of the left side uca. See, you folks are all over the place with these photos. I figured that would happen, that's why I didn't see a reason for them. My question was more hypothetical. And I will do exactly what you just suggested. Thanks.
 
Try putting the control arm back to back with the opposite control arm to get an idea if it’s bent . I would also use a tape measure from flange to flange through the holes and compare that to your known good one .
 
dodgemahal said:
Dearest 72blu and blow,
I won't be reading your treatise that appears to be as long as "War and Peace". I guess you wasted your time that would have been better spent working on your car. Go do that instead of being a winey B.
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:rofl:

Nothing wrong with my car bud, no need to work on it right now.

Sorry if my answer wasn't at your level of comprehension. I'll make it simple- bent UCA bad. Use the right tools and stupid things don't happen. A press for a UCA bushing is totally unnecessary, you can make a better tool and do it right for less than $20 and pretty much have zero risk of damaging your 50 year old rusty UCA. But of course, you have to understand what you're trying to accomplish to make that work.

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dodgemahal said:
I'll get these suspension parts beautifully restored to OEM and installed back on my Dart. Then I'll take pictures that ya'll crave so much, and ya'll can eat crow. Stay tuned for that, haha.
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Good Sir, I eagerly anticipate the photographs of your handiwork! For, your writing to have such moxie the work produced forthwith must be nothing short of outstanding, nay, in a class its own!

Now, i'll be the first of the line in confession that i know not in the slightest what tactile finesse it must take to make yield such componentry, surely you had of mind that something was amiss as conclusion drew near? Meaning to say, finer men have traveled the same path to success unscathed yet, you, a blatherskite, arrive to the destination battered and bruised as though you were beaten by man or beast and not machine.

This summation brings forth a query, in that for such gumption may one's approximated credentials be slightly swollen and possibly distended?

At rate, they say in so much let the proof be the pudding and with baited breath we eagerly anticipate the magnificent results of this production.
 
Tom R said:
Try putting the control arm back to back with the opposite control arm to get an idea if it’s bent . I would also use a tape measure from flange to flange through the holes and compare that to your known good one .
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Thanks Tom! Great idea.
 
72bluNblu said:
:rofl:

Nothing wrong with my car bud, no need to work on it right now.

Sorry if my answer wasn't at your level of comprehension. I'll make it simple- bent UCA bad. Use the right tools and stupid things don't happen. A press for a UCA bushing is totally unnecessary, you can make a better tool and do it right for less than $20 and pretty much have zero risk of damaging your 50 year old rusty UCA. But of course, you have to understand what you're trying to accomplish to make that work.

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You simply can't stop pretending to be a bully. Were you bullied growing up? I'm very sorry if you were.
I'm way ahead of you. I already made one of these up from stuff I already had laying around. It worked great removing the rubber bushing and sleeve but left the bushing shell in the arm. Now I need to make a tool to do just that. I've been making my own puller/installer tools for years. I'll figure this one out, unless you have some advice to help me out(hopefully, without the ridicule). Is that what the smaller washers do?
 
I'm not sure what junky said but it sure was barfdoogley. Is he okay? Somebody should check on him. Actually, it was hoot!
 
dodgemahal said:
You simply can't stop pretending to be a bully. Were you bullied growing up? I'm very sorry if you were.
I'm way ahead of you. I already made one of these up from stuff I already had laying around. It worked great removing the rubber bushing and sleeve but left the bushing shell in the arm. Now I need to make a tool to do just that. I've been making my own puller/installer tools for years. I'll figure this one out, unless you have some advice to help me out(hopefully, without the ridicule). Is that what the smaller washers do?
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If you actually read my comments, you'll see I've told you, step by step, how to properly do this job AND check to see if you screwed up your control arm. You're just focusing on the fact I called you out for being rude, which you are.

You're the one that asked for help, but can't be bothered to listen or answer questions that people that actually know what they're doing would need answers to in order to truly help you.

As for your "tool", if it left the shells in the arms you did it wrong. The pipe and washers have to be large enough in diameter to capture the shell. Properly constructed that tool will pull the shell easily, the one I posted a picture of has done just that many times.
 
dodgemahal said:
I'm not sure what junky said but it sure was barfdoogley. Is he okay? Somebody should check on him. Actually, it was hoot!
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Good sir, kindly refrain from being so glib in addressing me. You know not of me or my standing and a sobriquet is not only insulting but low class.

I assure you that i am of good health and sound mind and i find it discourteous for you to suggest otherwise. While i may not speak the queen's english, only a clodpoll would find hard to decipher the message i put forth. With strenuous focus and mighty will you may come to understand the text, although you may find the effort exhausting and out of reach; an intellectual zenith, if you will.
 
You know not of me or my standing, you evescerite gallywomp. It's a draw, Drew.

You're dealing with forces here you cannot possibly understand. Now go wrench on your car.
 
dodgemahal said:
I'm not sure what junky said but it sure was barfdoogley. Is he okay? Somebody should check on him. Actually, it was hoot!
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He said he looking forward to seeing car get put back together and he is confident you'll do a good job.
 
Are you kidding? Seriously, I didn't get that. I thought it was another attempt at putting me down. I actually read it twice. My apologies to the guy.
 
I have GGGGGREAT NEWS,
I've been getting a lot of support on the private message here on this forum.
Here's one:
What a fricken train wreck! Been on and off this site since 2005 and everytime I come on there is another group of people who have to respond to every thread with their holier than thou responses. Sure they are knowledgeable, but if you don't give them what they want they are quick to admonish your ability. Triple r is the worst.

Here's another:
Hey buddy please don't take it personal but it's a lot of clowns on this site that are super sensitive like a *****. trust me treat them back the same way and they will get the pic. fkn bullies that think they are God. and don't know ****. My name is xtyzn and glad to have you on the site. I bent one trying and still having problems with the lower A bushing removal installer. I would let them losers know though.

They are spot on. The shoe fits. I know I'll get an onslaught of hate, but the truth needs to get out there.
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dodgemahal said:
You know not of me or my standing, you evescerite gallywomp. It's a draw, Drew.

You're dealing with forces here you cannot possibly understand. Now go wrench on your car.
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20 lashes with a well used fan belt for your insolent behavior!
 
Clean and paint arms, new bushings, new ball joints, wrench it back together then post up pictures. Badda boom badda bing done get pats on the back....
 
Outasite said:
Been gone for almost a year. Just checked in today,better than ever :popcorn:
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Welcome back! I'll be in Holland next week some time. We have a freezer in Luddington.
Yeah, nothing's changed around here.
 
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