I guess I am all alone on this issue, I have had mopars and chevy's most of my life, along with the harleys, without going into 45 years plus of cars, the recent ones are 85 Iroc-z , 97 z-28, 2003 hemi ram, 68 gts. 1940 ply coupe , 1968 buick wild cat , a 65 chevy elcamino , a 84 olds cutlass...