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then make my 3rd ine rustratrod cuz thats what i couldnt find and i own one as well. i dont drink either.

@Mad Dart @HemiDenny ive gotta find the 3d cuz i cant spell.

i was geeked about turbos way back when. that is why it is spelled with 2 ee's instead of ea. ive had this user name since 2002ish across the net on car forums. thank you for the honorable mention. i am humbled.

well those head flow numbers are about what my stock truck heads flow on my dart. sorry they dont make a cast iron head for my engine. i guess i could pain them and call it a 352?

and my first turbo build i didnt have any of that either. still read the plugs as well. boost controller was a spring valve and a knob on it. but i get what your sayin about the availability of help today is far superior. the fact people trust in paid help goes a ling ways. back in the day...

****...you guys had it easy compared to today. you wanna talk efi tuning, traction control, wheel speed monitorying and power management of today? your mods are cheap in comparison and mechanically simple. today you gotta take classes and courses to figure out how to use the stuff you bought...

i wasnt hiding it was i? bars are black as inside is. windows are not even in the car but will be tinted and impossible to see then. i dont think wheels break the deal in this day n age. 70s-80s sure but not today. and like i said no 5in tach or guages galore everywhere. im debating on...

i am confused now. are you saying a modern v6 car can run with a 440 rt now? this isnt looking to well here.lol im also not talking about slushy cars with 300hp. i am talking about cars that are modern and modified vs old school that are dressed in stripes are not comparable. you cant...

i love them just as muvh but im a speedaholic and love my twin turbos, newgen hemi engine in my dart. 1500whp+ and 20mpg in my old 67 dart patinafina monster.

yea i sold them a while back. threw them in just to make room in my garage.

how the hell does 2 stripes on the back remove the sleeper status of a 45yr old car? nobody today even cares about a stock rt or anything the likes of that today. yall gotta get out of the 70s. thats been 40+yrs already.

guys with fast cars dont get razzled by a lopey cam anymore. perhaps it peaks interest more so but thats it. most mopars gad some lope to them back then or purple shaft setups thst today nobody will even consider to be any different today. i mean just look on the boards...the purple cam is...

stripe dont mean nothing. it looks stock. if it runs like a wild *** ape...then its a sleeper.

i can do the black wheels thing again. no biggy

mie dont have a tach. in fact it doesnt have any guages at all. just a little 7in screen for all that stuff.

so by pooking at it. what kind of et or power would you expect from it?

it is very quiet when running. barely much lopeyness at idle for even a purple cam mopar. it just doesnt scream 4/7 sec monster i dont think. there is just no way anyone would expect it to be a 7 sec ride by the looks of it. 9s at best.

but its a 1500+hp payina hotrod. does it look like that from the pics minus the chute??

thank you sir. if i had a different brand many would be suspect for sure. however owning a dart nobody even the rare wise guys would guess a single digits street car from a mopar. add to it the ugly looking color patina, dosile idle i figured it wasnt a snoring boring sleeper but it was more...

but it wouldnt out run much of anything today. back when...sure i would agree fully. but in todays world of fast cars out the factory gates. it is much to difficult to spot a fast car vs a monster fast car. even with wheels and a cage it is hard pressed to know for certain. if you are...

nvm

lmao. you would be amazed how well holley efi traction control works. wheel speed controls do a lot more than just keep the car planted amd pulling.

see the chute is removable as i said. its a slow 12 sec car now right?

well that sucks. lol at least after its painted it will be unrecognizable

that is just to loud and to deep a tone to pull off....wait its a mopar. it already has a "wont run faster than 12s" outsider looking in perspective. that is where i come from looking at sleepers anyways. something that is just not the norm of being extremely fast on a regular basis.

parachute comes off along with its mount in less than a minute. gonna tint the windows quiet as all get out. twin turbo hemi and mufflered to boot. cam.wont even give off much profile to boot. will run 4 in the 1/8 eventually. 5s to start with.

see tiny

it is only on 275/60x15s with an 8in wheel and leaf springs. not a huge wheel under the car. bjt it is a muscle car so it is gonna have that 80s look to it.

i kind of consider my dart to be a sleeper. yes you can see the cage at some angles. yes it has a chute(but it is removable with ease to conceal it). so what would you guys consider a true sleeper of sorts? 10 sec, 9s, 8s?? how fast and how simple looking does it have to be?? i think just...

has to practice the so called knowledge before producing any results. nothing more than trisl and error in a labratory. so many have givin into modern medicines they forgot about natural cures and non existance of many forms of sickness before it became a business for profit. no longer healers...