castor oil in gasoline?

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I was over at a buddys house tonight and across the street they were havin a car show. one guy had a coupe like milners in american graffitti. somethin was said about putting castor oil in the gas for the street rod? can anyone enlighten me about putting castor oil in the gas? not castrol, castor oil
 
The effect depends on the dosage. If you put in a small amount, the effect is wasted time and money. If you put in a large amount, the effect is wasted time and money, smoky exhaust, and fouled spark plugs.
 
Years ago when racing fuel wasn't widely available, some guys mixed high octane aviation fuel with castor oil for high compression engines. The castor oil gave them some extra lubrication and was believed to help prevent burnt valves.

But it made your eyes burn coming out the exhaust.....
 
Castor oil used to be used mixed with gas as the lubricant for two stroke motors. Can't imagine why you would put it in the gas of a four stroke.
 
Didn't or don't they still mix this oil with nitomethane. I thought it was also in the fuel for the little rc planes and cars and whatever.
 
Its for the smell guys. Its called Castrol R, and if you are too cheap to run it in your crankcase a little in the gas will give the engine the same smell.
Before the introduction of synthetic oils it was the best you could run in your engine. It is a Castor bean based oil that outperforms regular petroleum based oils.
Its all I ever ran in the original Missile.
Andrew
 
And it would varnish terribly if you didn't drain it after every race. Smells cool though.
 
Yes they did mix it with Nitromethane, and it was what you were smelling most of the time.I had people ask me if I was running Nitro in the Missile.
Chief, as the missile was a street/cruising car I never had the varnish problem I ran it for about five years.

By the way the new missile will be run on Canola based oil and VOB stock lubricants throughout.

Andrew
 
Caster oil also creates a small blue "lint". I race 2 stroke racing karts and one of the biggest things we have to do is tear the carb apart to clean a small screen inserted in the carb to catch all of this blue lint. It almost looks like pocket lint in your blue jeans.
 
My dad used it in his Bultaco and Montessa dirtbikes. I heard it falls out of suspension pretty quick as well.
 
Before MotoCross there were 'Scrambles' racing when I was a kid on the east coast. Nothing like the smell of Castrol R in the morning! I'd put a little in the lawn mower gas it smelled so good!
 
Right on! I put old dirtbike gas in my lawnmowers. They are both flatheads so they can run off gutter water if they have to. Love the smell of synthetic 2 smoke when I cut the grass. Not as good as castor-based tho.
 
I put 2 ounces of 2 stroke oil for every 10 gallons of gas in everything I drive. Helps keep the top end lubed, smells good and stopped my spark knock.
 
avarageerod said:
I put 2 ounces of 2 stroke oil for every 10 gallons of gas in everything I drive. Helps keep the top end lubed, smells good and stopped my spark knock.
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That's a neat trick, since in the real world oil in the gasoline lowers the octane rating.
 
slantsixdan said:
That's a neat trick, since in the real world oil in the gasoline lowers the octane rating.
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your right, it must be the fantasy world I live in.
I just said it works for me, doesn't mean it would work on anyone else's ride.

I'm almost to the point that DareDevils at with this site. Instead of asking how or why it worked for me, just start belittling someone about it.

And its not the "site", its the people
 
avarageerod said:
your right, it must be the fantasy world I live in.
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It's nothing more or less than the same fantasy world all of us humans live in. We think we see patterns, connections, and causalities where none actually exist, because that's how our highly-suggestible brains work. It's MonkeyOS 1.1, and it's very buggy.

There's no such thing as a one-car exemption from the effects of adding oil to gasoline: it lowers the octane rating and increases tendency to ping. There are two reasons not to feel bad about it, though:

1. Two ounces per ten gallons isn't enough to cause much of any measurable effect at all, except for the waste of money, and

2. Just as you don't get an exemption from reality, neither do I, so we're even-Steven on that count.
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I'm sure your ping problem went away. If you want to believe it went away because you add two ounces of oil per ten gallons of gasoline, it's a free country and you get to keep right on believin' it.

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(As for the people on this forum: if you don't like the posts of particular posters, don't read 'em and *bam*, the problem's solved for ya…just like magic!
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I believe that while each motor is basically built the same. But I don't believe they all run the Exactly same. If it works for ya use it. No one can tell you any different. What works for others may not work for all. People were raised different when it come to cars. There a million ways to do things and they all might be right. Besides 2oz of oil per 10 gal is 2 oz more then just with straight gas. So there has to be some kind of effect.
 
eaglesguy1981j said:
I believe that while each motor is basically built the same. But I don't believe they all run the Exactly same. If it works for ya use it. No one can tell you any different. What works for others may not work for all. People were raised different when it come to cars. There a million ways to do things and they all might be right. Besides 2oz of oil per 10 gal is 2 oz more then just with straight gas. So there has to be some kind of effect.
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Uhh...yeah, and just because square wheels and tires don't work well on my car, that don't mean they ain't gonna work well on your car, 'cuz each car runs a little different, 'cuz their owners wuz raised different and stuff, an' don't you let nobody tell you no different, nope-nope, aHyuck! :lol:

The less one knows about a subject, the less he thinks there is to know. But in a free country like this one, you get to be as ignorant and as satisfied with guesses as you wanna be!
 
slantsixdan said:
Uhh...yeah, and just because square wheels and tires don't work well on my car, that don't mean they ain't gonna work well on your car, 'cuz each car runs a little different, 'cuz their owners wuz raised different and stuff, an' don't you let nobody tell you no different, nope-nope, aHyuck! :lol:

The less one knows about a subject, the less he thinks there is to know. But in a free country like this one, you get to be as ignorant and as satisfied with guesses as you wanna be!
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Funny guy you are. Your great at the name calling as well. When you were a kid did you always dream of being the internet know-it-all? Ignorant is a great word to describe exactly yourself. Apparently mannars were left out of your up bringing. But hey can't hold that against you. Your special my friend truly special.
 
you never asked me why it stopped the spark knock.

I use it more as a Top Cylinder Lube than anything. Some use Mystery Oil. There are many others. I see no reason a 2cycle oil wouldn't work. TCL lubricates parts that don't see oil normaly. Valve stems and fuel pumps for one.

Alcohol in modern fuels is not a good lubricant.
Lucas UCL is good, but expensive. I use 2 stroke oil at 2 ounces/10 gal gas.
But I tried OUTBOARD 2 stroke oil. It's better for water cooled engines, leaves even less deposits, and does not affect octane as much.
One gallon is $9.00 at Walmart, so it's very cheap.

At the same time, I tried soldering in a 5.6k ohm resistor in series with my inlet air temp sensor. I tried this before at 2.4k ohms, with indifferent results, but this time I got immediate results.
My gas gauge would not move, I thought it was broken. When I got 200 miles and it was well above 1/2 a tank, I really started to take notice.
I drive easy, but wring her out every day, too. This is suburban driving, not really all city.
I don't think the computer will override this, because the air temps are within normal temps. 5.6 k ohm lies to the computer that it is 10-20 deg F colder than it really is [10 cold and 20 at hot air temps].
The extra cruising ignition advance must be the reason.
This is a big jump - like 5-8 MPG more than normal in these circumstances.
[It is not because of how I filled the tank,BTW.]
Power remains great, still gets 7-7.2 seconds 0-60 and granny shifting.

But because of the increased timing I had a spark knock problem, which would retard my timing. I removed the spark knock sensor with out much success. I started adding the oil to my gas, and it went away. I call it a success, but maybe I'll quit doing it because you said it wouldn't work. This is on my 98 Escort btw.
Maybe I should have gone to school one more day and I'd have a better understand of how my car works.
 
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