Deltatech's 1973 Plymouth Duster

[Deltatech]

I didn't get time to work on the project till now.
I've been outside hanging shade tarps to fend off the summer sun in my Spring/summer/fall- outdoor work area.

 

[Deltatech]

Day 5 still haven't found the oil slinger it may be at my brothers.
I'm just going to run it without one.

 

[mygasser]

why not buy one if you can't find it. it's not like they're rare.

 

[Deltatech]

why not buy one if you can't find it. it's not like they're rare.

Shipping takes a while lately but I just may order one. If I do I may as well pick up new oil pump bolts...

 

[mygasser]

Shipping takes a while lately but I just may order one. If I do I may as well pick up new oil pump bolts...

i know we all do it but.... how long have you spent looking for it?
you could have had one delivered by now, lol.
as i say we all do it
neil.

 

[Deltatech]

i know we all do it but.... how long have you spent looking for it?
you could have had one delivered by now, lol.
as i say we all do it
neil.

it's not the time, it's that a new one from 440 source is $40 with shipping for what should be a $2 part. I can't justify that for a small piece of sheet metal with no machining.
I already have 5 of them, so I'm sitting on $200 when I find them,lol.

 

[Deltatech]

Yup, I'm getting old and forgetful.... I forgot to locktight the cam bolt....can't find the oil slinger so it's not getting one.
I'm not comfortable with one lifter that is spinning a little less than the rest turning over by hand so the rockers are coming back off and lifters checked again.
I should have the timing cover installed later today and make some progress.
Tornado warnings yesterday took up a lot of time.
I'll get pics soon.

 

[Deltatech]

I had a heck of a time last night with the 440 Source Chrome timing cover and High Volume fuel pump.
The timing cover was warped at the top. You can see the timing chain through the cover with it bolted down.
So far this thing has been a lot of work. All that I had to do to it to get it decent enough to install.
*used a dead blow to straighten the flange.
* grind a socket sized recess to the lower front (could have used allen headed bolts instead as one very smart member noted)
*traced a line from the oil pan side and ground off the excess sharp edges.
But it's finally on with some RTV as assurance.

 

[mygasser]

what a faff! glad you persevered and sorted it, most would've sent it back for replacement just to get another the same. we shouldn't have to do this sort of thing to new parts but it just seems to be the way of things these days
neil.

 

[Deltatech]

most would've sent it back for replacement just to get another the same. we shouldn't have to do this sort of thing to new parts but it just seems to be the way of things these days
neil.

You pegged why I didn't send it back! Exactly correct.
The fuel pump was just as bad I had to drill it.

 

[Deltatech]

The Balancer went on smooth and Torqued to 135 ft lbs with a big screwdriver in the notch on the back of the crank.
The Crank pulley had to be juuust right to be able to fit the socket on the bolts. It took a few tries tighening and loosening.

 

[Deltatech]

I decided to use the High Volume fuel pump from 440 source instead of the stock.
Here I ran into a bunch of trouble.
I got 1.41 on the block, 1.35 on the stock (which fit) but 1.42 on the 440 source pump which caused the threads to gall the aluminum and almost destroyed the threads in the block.

 

[Deltatech]

In the vice it went, taped the opening to keep shards out and a bit of twisty grind later and it fits.
I think the holes were drilled before it was chromed causing them to be off.
It went right on and torqued to 35 ft/lbs. I was a little puckered hoping it hadn't stripped inside even though I chased and cleaned out the threads.

 

[Deltatech]

AAND the of course the fel pro gaskets over hang the 440 source aluminum water pump housing....
Every part I have bought from 440 source has had to have work done for it to fit correctly.

 

[Deltatech]

The melling oil pump went on perfectly, torqued to 35 ft lbs, o-ring installed on the shaft.
I've had this new Alternator for 2 years sitting in the box while waiting for the machine shop so I've totally forgotten how the Alt and power steering brackets and bolts go on and where.
I'm going to google it later when I have thime.

 

[Deltatech]

I broke out the hobby knife and cut the water pump gaskets to fit the 440 Source housing. Pics from a stock housing for reference.
I have yet to look for a diagram or exploded for the alt and Power steering brackets, bolts, washers and spacers.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Day 5 still haven't found the oil slinger it may be at my brothers.
I'm just going to run it without one.

So many people have forgotten or left them off, I'd not worry about it. They aren't really a "slinger" anyway. They were put there to disallow the oil from crowding the seal. Sorta to help the seal do its job. With modern much improved seals, there's really no need. Also, don't forget you can allow pressurized oil to the timing chain set by drilling a small (about .040" hole) in one of the main oil galley plugs in the timing cover area. This will spray pressurized oil all over the timing set, so any job it had as a "slinger" is now null and void.

 

[Deltatech]

So many people have forgotten or left them off, I'd not worry about it. They aren't really a "slinger" anyway. They were put there to disallow the oil from crowding the seal. Sorta to help the seal do its job. With modern much improved seals, there's really no need. Also, don't forget you can allow pressurized oil to the timing chain set by drilling a small (about .040" hole) in one of the main oil galley plugs in the timing cover area. This will spray pressurized oil all over the timing set, so any job it had as a "slinger" is now null and void.

I read some of your older posts talking about the old rope seals.
It made me wonder how many times you have had to repeat this info...lol
It's a bit different than the small block with the cam plate and possible hole through the bolt on laters..

 

[RustyRatRod]

I read some of your older posts talking about the old rope seals.
It made me wonder how many times you have had to repeat this info...lol
It's a bit different than the small block with the cam plate and possible hole through the bolt on laters..

Yeah I forgot this is big block. Lemmie look at the front of one.

 

[RustyRatRod]

I read some of your older posts talking about the old rope seals.
It made me wonder how many times you have had to repeat this info...lol
It's a bit different than the small block with the cam plate and possible hole through the bolt on laters..

Yeah there's one right on the passenger's side of the camshaft bore. Just drill a .040" right through that pipe plug and you have oil to the timing chain.

 

[Deltatech]

I got the old casters off and the bigger 1000lb casters temporarily fitted with 2 bolts in each.
The engine run stand sits about 4 inches higher with the heavy duty casters. My engine hoist legs will now roll under this frame.
I have to drill 3 more holes either tonight or tomorrow to finish it.
I'm debating tack welding the heavy casters on all 4 sides.
I still need to find some scrap steel to weld in across the inside to tie in the 3rd hole in each caster.
I'll be mounting an old D150 radiator and new gauges soon.

 

[Deltatech]

Today,
*finished the heavy casters on the engine run stand.
*built a quick engine stand drip tray from sheet metal.
*pulled all of the anti fatigue mats out and gave the garage floor a scrub and hosed it out
*minor tool reset.

Inching closer to breathing life into this old 440 once again with more power than it ever had!!
My 500HP goal on pump gas is in sight!

 

[RustyRatRod]

I got the old casters off and the bigger 1000lb casters temporarily fitted with 2 bolts in each.
The engine run stand sits about 4 inches higher with the heavy duty casters. My engine hoist legs will now roll under this frame.
I have to drill 3 more holes either tonight or tomorrow to finish it.
I'm debating tack welding the heavy casters on all 4 sides.
I still need to find some scrap steel to weld in across the inside to tie in the 3rd hole in each caster.
I'll be mounting an old D150 radiator and new gauges soon.

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That's nice. I gotta make me one.

 

[Deltatech]

For reference and anyone wondering how much space rebuilding an old car takes, this project is being completed out of
* a 1 car garage, 1st pic
*converted engine room, by building an 8 foot 2x12 topped shop table and bare flooring ( just removed the laminate flooring and stacked it in the closet.) 2nd and 3rd pics
*using a dining area for engine storage in the winter
*and 2- 10x 15 uncovered, outdoor, concrete slabs during spring summer and fall.(no pic yet)
*Parts storage is 10- 48x22-5 shelf units split between the garage and engine rooms.

Projects like this take immense amounts of space to accomplish.
I'm constantly having to rearrange and reorganize due to lack of space. Which increases the TTA (time to accomplish) and workload of the build.

 

[Deltatech]

I hooked up my old Linux PC ,a 42 inch tv/monitor and celphone in the garage today.
I'm not sure if I like where the tv is yet, may move it.
I've started using my old celphone to take pics and upload straight from the garage instead of having to go into my office area.
I also got the Equus Guages for the engine run stand.