stormydart
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Best place to get drop spindles thanks
Drop spindles
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el5dart
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i wouldn’t use them but they are available.
Magnum Force Mopar 2 inch dropped spindles for Dodge and Plymouth
Magnum Force Mopar 2 inch dropped spindles for Dodge and Plymouth
For what vehicle? Can't imagine using them on a torsion bar car.....
Intended use of the car?
They increase bump steer and raise the roll center. Plus if you’re building a handling car you want bigger torsion bars anyway and that allows you to lower the car with the adjusters, which get you better suspension geometry, not worse.
They increase bump steer and raise the roll center. Plus if you’re building a handling car you want bigger torsion bars anyway and that allows you to lower the car with the adjusters, which get you better suspension geometry, not worse.
I put them on my 63 Valiant along with a 73 up disc brake swap.
Why ? because they were given to me from a project that went another direction.
They came from Fat Man Fabrication. They worked fine.Really don't even notice stance in the photo.
Also used the 1.2 Torsion bars. I agree with 72bluNblu
Why ? because they were given to me from a project that went another direction.
They came from Fat Man Fabrication. They worked fine.Really don't even notice stance in the photo.
Also used the 1.2 Torsion bars. I agree with 72bluNblu
stormydart
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Thansk
stormydart
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Thanks
I still don't understand using drop spindles on a torsion bar car......can someone 'splain' 
mopowers
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I guess it means you can lower the car without having the bump stops get close to the frame. Not sure if that's good or bad. Seems a little unnecessary to me though.
stormydart
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Not for torsion bar car
interesting. now you have my attention...
mopowers
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I guess the OP wants us to guess what he's trying to do? We're all dumbasses for even responding to obscure threads like this.
I still don't understand using drop spindles on a torsion bar car......can someone 'splain'
Exactly. The drop spindles lower the ride height without changing the available suspension travel, or the control arm angles as long as you lower the car the same amount as the drop spindles do. Since all that is available for Mopars is 2" drop spindles, if you actually go with a 2" lower ride height then the control arm angles stay the same.
BUT, 2" is a lot lower. Running 2" lower than factory puts headers really close to the ground, and taller tires will hit the inner fender at full suspension compression. The other thing is, the factory suspension geometry at factory ride height is not actually all that good for radial tires. Because they change the relationship between the stub and the steering arms they also add bump steer. Not a crazy amount, but it is noticeable. Or at least it was on my Challenger when I ran them. Where you really get into more trouble is if you run a 2" drop spindle but don't run the ride height 2" lower. At that point you actually have worse geometry than factory, which is even less ideal for radial tires.
And many people that want to lower their car 2" are doing it to improve handling. If you lower the car with the torsion bar adjusters until the LCA is parallel to the ground (A-B of 0 if you're looking at the FSM), you get about 2" lower than factory, and you get much BETTER suspension geometry- better camber gain, better roll center, etc. And, because if you're improving handling you're also increasing the torsion bar size, the increased wheel rate means you can afford to lose a little suspension travel. Combined with modifying bump stops and a few other minor tweaks you can lower the car 2" with just the torsion bar adjusters and have better suspension geometry than you started with, which makes it better than it is with drop spindles if you lower 2 and dramatically better than if you use 2" drop spindles and don't run a full 2" lower.
If you want to lower the car and not change the torsion bar diameter or mess with bump stop mods etc then the drop spindles make that possible. But you sacrifice suspension geometry to do it. It's lowering the car for cosmetic reasons rather than performance ones.
So why are you trying to run Mopar drop spindles? Or is this thread completely irrelevant?
Yup, seems that way.
stormydart
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thanks
stormydart
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Just trying to figure out my options the coil overs are to long and someone mentioned that drop spindles might help.
stormydart
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Car has Aje suspension
Dropped another crumb for us....
This is probably the best thread for you to consult.
AJE Tubular Coil Over Front Suspension
Running drop spindles won’t help you at all if your coil overs are too long, all they do is move the stub higher on the spindle, so, the car would be lower but the relationship between the control arms and the coil overs would be the same
stormydart
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Thanks for the reply
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