actually you got me thinking bpwordman, because later on im planning on putting a 360 in and beefing it up some more so.... u know what, its just better to go with the 8 3/4 then because im tired of half assing things! it might be more expensive but in the long run it will just be alot more better, and oh yea i dont have the 8" ford yet 1wild&crazyguy, just one of my friends mentioned about adapting it to a dart with ease and i wanted to confirm it but thanks for that info.