HOTMOPR
Mr Horsepower
Does anybody make a front steer arm to properly work with a front rack? I have a QA1 K member. I need to get the stock box outta there for headers. Thanks
Front steer arms?
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HOTMOPR
Mr Horsepower
Or what rack may work for a rear steer option? I dont have headers to worry about going out the back.. 
You don't need to change the steering to use headers in these cars, man.
TTI, Doug's and others do fit.
Who told you that you need to switch to a steering rack ???
TTI, Doug's and others do fit.
Who told you that you need to switch to a steering rack ???
HOTMOPR
Mr Horsepower
Look man. I do. lol.
RustyRatRod
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It's my understanding that the spindles can swap side to side. That would put the steering arms in the front.
*blinks slowly*
RustyRatRod
Caput villa stultus
I thought I remember reading that somewhere. If I'm wrong, feel free to say it. lol
swapping spindles from side to side only changes the location of the caliper.
if you swap the joints side to side you could make it front steer but it twacks out the ackerman and geometry.
some did that back in the day on drag only cars with super limited suspension travel but it's not something that's common or even advisable.
The lower ball joints can flip around but this is a really stupid thing to do. It messes with Ackermann angles and bump steer a LOT.
there's no cheap or easy way to put a front steer rack on our cars that doesn't end with the vehicle being basically undriveable on the street due to the resulting geometry.
lol ??
Really? You actually laughed out loud?
RustyRatRod
Caput villa stultus
That's what I was thinkin about. The lower ball joints.
HOTMOPR
Mr Horsepower
Ya easiest is to swap ball joints side to side but the Ackerman angles get hammered and it doesn’t turn right mostly at low speed. It is a drag car 80% of the time but does see some street for car shows etc. I swore somebody made a tubular steer arm that bolted on. Maybe not.
RustyRatRod
Caput villa stultus
I don't know how they did it. This is a super OLD mod that was really popular back in the 70s on drag cars. Maybe @GTX JOHN might have some tips. Or possibly @Oldmanmopar.
HOTMOPR
Mr Horsepower
Ya I did. I asked a simple question and you start questioning why and making other recommendations. So ya I gave a dumb response. I didn’t think I needed to give the full details of my build to get your approval. But since you seem so inclined. It’s a 2000+ hp gen 3 hemi single turbo build. The damn steering box is right in the way of 2” header tubes. On the gen 3 they pretty much shoot right at the box and about 2” away.
You went to that degree of a race car build and you're still using some stock based steering and suspension?
Come on, man....You already deviated 90% from a stock front structure, why didn't you build a custom front frame arrangement? From there, you can really see more options as far as steering and suspension.
As stated, turning the lower ball joints forward is a bad idea fraught with many drawbacks. The aftermarket coil-over suspension setups often use a steering rack that also is chock full of compromises and drawbacks so no matter what you choose, you are giving up something.
Come on, man....You already deviated 90% from a stock front structure, why didn't you build a custom front frame arrangement? From there, you can really see more options as far as steering and suspension.
As stated, turning the lower ball joints forward is a bad idea fraught with many drawbacks. The aftermarket coil-over suspension setups often use a steering rack that also is chock full of compromises and drawbacks so no matter what you choose, you are giving up something.
Kendog 170
Let the boy go !
I had a 70 Duster my buddy did this to. It did feel a bit funky.
I will add, he swapped the spindles too, so Calipers were up front.
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Try a Dakota rack,
HOTMOPR
Mr Horsepower
Well for a car that’s been in the 4s in the 1/8th it’s done pretty damn well. Didn’t see the need to ditch the torsion bars since they were never in the way with the forward facing headers.
Kendog 170
Let the boy go !
Is this doable with stock K frame? Interested.
how much of it needs to be left over to still be considered "stock"?
HOTMOPR
Mr Horsepower
Is that a rear steer rack?
My solution would be to convert it to a Mustang II/Pinto.
We just go a new one for under $200 on E bay (Not the
aftermarket suspension guys who were triple that.
The only conversion that we do on front suspension is to
put B body lower control arms on our A Body race cars.
It really helps the geometry and keep the wheels from tucking
in when the front is in the air. It cures a lot of the wobble when
they hit the ground again.
We just go a new one for under $200 on E bay (Not the
aftermarket suspension guys who were triple that.
The only conversion that we do on front suspension is to
put B body lower control arms on our A Body race cars.
It really helps the geometry and keep the wheels from tucking
in when the front is in the air. It cures a lot of the wobble when
they hit the ground again.
Most fwd cars have rear steer racks with the pinion on the left. If you can't find one where the inner tierods are the same distance apart as the A bodys, some are center tapped with the boots on the ends so the inner tie rods can attach to a fabricated plate, allowing them to be in the best position (relative to the rack position and distance between the inner tierods) to minimize bumpsteer and place the rack's pinion offset to the left enough to get around the motor.Or what rack may work for a rear steer option? I dont have headers to worry about going out the back..
Some '90s gm were center tapped (corsica if memory serves) but there are also aftermarket types used on '60s mustangs and buggies.
yeah, dak's are front steer 97~04 or there abouts.
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