Oil Pan to ground and front end travel

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olskoolmopar

olskoolmopar

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hey all
69 dart (hemi clone), RB, milodon 31470 pan, calverts, on the brake

if i set the pan to ground at 3inches...when i leave at 2500 car pulls the wheels a foot or so; leave at 3500, chassis is loaded more and the car doesn't hook so well. Darn front end is so high at static height that 3 1/2 to 4 inches of travel (not 5) is all i can get.
Anybody running a 31581 pan at the strip. 3 plus inches of extra clearance is interesting.
Car is more of a proof of concept than a high dollar ride but not too stubborn to learn, any ideas ???
 
I have a similar situation, thinking of having a custom pan done to get more clearance. Not sure on that milidon pan.
 

Wrote a big long opinion on your question. Then I reread your post. Your brake isn't working right. A transbrake will not allow any preloading of the suspension regardless of engine rpm. If it does its slipping. Maybe it needs adjusting. Maybe it needs to be opened up. But its not right.
 
Hey hang0ut, wish you had kept what you typed cause I'm on the footbrake. I should have been more specific. Trying to build a NSS type car. No box, no brake.
 
Okay, I'll tell ya what I think. Not enough front end travel as preloading it by footbraking eats up available travel. Add to that a big pan. I run that same pan on my 64 plymouth street car. Thats the engine in my avatar pic. You can add a skid plate to protect the pan and adjust the bump stops to keep off the plate. Lower the front and drive carefully. Put the tallest front tire you can and lower the front back down. Go with a shallower pan and use an accusump/oil accumulator. I wonder about those as the oil would be cold relative to the engine oil. But cold oil is way better than no oil. Go with that road race pan. Looks nice but a tight fit. Probably the way to go. Another option that would raise eyebrows would be install a clutchflight. I've been using one on and off for a looong time now. It has not blown up dispite what some might say. I had it in a 8 sec altered and in my 69 dart running mid 10s. It is a fun trans to drive. Thats the short version.
 
thanks hangn0ut,
I knew I was short on front end travel at 3 1/2+". Caltracs need 5" but it's a snowball kind of thing...Can't increase rollout or ground clearanance with bigger front tires (25x5) cause I have fenderwell headers. Dragstrips are straight but ya gotta turn around lol. Yeah TTI's but that's a lesson someone else can learn from. The only way I could figure to get more travel was to lower car with a shorter pan and hoped someone on the strip who pulled hard g's had successfully ran (and lived) one of the protouring pans would do the job.
Accumulator onboard. tks again
 
My motor is set really low to keep the crank center line low so it's not a wheelie machine plus my car is really low. I just made a custom flat pan, holds 6 quarts give or take a little.




 
tks junior, guess it didn't take much to convince me to go to the short pan. The fenderwell headers really dictated the stock engine location which caused so many issues. "Man only truly learns from negative experiences"
Nice work on the pan and crossmember. Good looking welds man
 
Hey olskool,help me out here. What set up you running? Hemi clone with fenderwell headers? NSS I believe requires stock engine location. I may be wrong there. With an accusump and that pan you gotta have 10 quarts onboard. Unless your twisting your motor real tight thats more than enough. If you notched the k member,I mean big notch, you could run a full lenght pan,shallower and have the same amount of oil. Anyhow,what is your combo if ya dont mind? Thanks!
 
The body is a 69 dart, looks exactly like a 68 hemi dart. A worn out 440 +30 to dial car. It's 12.5 with a cam and a 850. Same combo that went 11 teens the last time I ran the car in 1983. Yeah, long time...Navy, work, kids, divorce.
Dug it out, narrowed the rear, removed the leaf link, caltracs now. Glass front end, cage; ...ran great for years with old set of Tony Pizzi done heads. Born a poor child, I go and buy a set of 440 source heads. One cracked on the second run. Wasn't even a hard pass. Now since it goes straight and stops, replacing the engine with a 505 with EZ's.
Yes, NSS does require you keep the engine in virtually a stock location. That is what I have with fenderwell headers. Perhaps my description of hemi clone is misleading. Sold my hemi to build what I have now. Nothing real fast, just an old bracket car.
 
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