RECALL:2 million Toyota, Chrysler and Honda vehicles need a second fix for air bags

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Automakers recall over 2M cars for new air bag problem
Published January 31, 2015

Associated Press
NEW YORK –

Drivers, bring your vehicles back to the shop for more work on faulty air bags.

The government says more 2 million Toyota, Chrysler and Honda vehicles need a second fix for air bags than that may inadvertently inflate while the car is running.


The recall includes some Acura MDX, Dodge Viper, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Honda Odyssey, Pontiac Vibe, Toyota Corolla and Toyota Avalon models made from 2002 to 2004.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says all of the vehicles covered in Saturday's announcement had already been under a recall for the faulty air bags. Carmakers originally tried to fix the defects by partially replacing the electronic control unit, made by TRW Automotive Holdings Corp. of Livonia, Mich., but that fix didn't always work. The new remedy — full replacement of the unit — will be available to all affected vehicles by the end of the year.

However, the NHTSA is urging consumers with cars under the first recall to have the partial unit installed despite the fix's failure rate, even if they have to return to the dealer under the second recall.

"Even though it's a temporary solution until the new remedy is available," NHTSA Administrator Mark Rosekind said, consumers "and their families will be safer if they take the time to learn if their vehicle is covered and follow their manufacturers' instructions."

About 39 air bags, or 15 percent, that had been replaced under the previous recall have deployed inadvertently again.

The agency says about 1 million Toyota and Honda vehicles involved in the new recalls are also subject to a separate recall related to defective air bags made by Takata Corp. of Japan. Those air bags can deploy and rupture with enough force to cause injury or death.

In nine cases, cars had problems that included both the inadvertent deployment and the Takata rupture. Three of those cases resulted in injuries, including eye injuries, scratches and burns.

No death or injuries related to non-Takata air bag failures have been reported.

The announcement comes days after the family of Carlos Solis filed a lawsuit against Takata. Solis, 35, died on Jan. 18 in a minor crash in a Houston suburb. The lawsuit alleges that as an air bag in his 2002 Honda Accord inflated, it sent a piece of metal into his neck. Solis died at the scene. His death has not officially been linked to the air bag.

Takata is under fire for air bag inflators that can explode, shooting out metal and plastic pieces. At least five deaths and dozens of injuries have been linked to the problem worldwide. Ten automakers have recalled about 12 million vehicles in the U.S. and about 19 million globally for problems with the air bags. The company is still trying to determine the cause of the problem.
 
You ever notice how it's almost always, 100% of the time, the government mandated crappola that the recalls are on? Before government regulation, recalls were few and far between.
 
Yep. I think part of that issue is when they mandate this stuff, they don't allow enough lead time to work out all the bugs.
They know the thing works but they don't know how it will react after 8 or 10 years or so.
 
I think it's conflicting that the airbags are a "safety" item, but still can injure and kill people????


Then when you get in an accident and they go off, it costs 3k or more to replace them. This sometimes pushes cars that could be fixed into the "totalled" group because of the cost of replacing all of the air bags that went off in the crash....

If you wear a seat belt, you don't really need an air bag....
 
Yep. I think part of that issue is when they mandate this stuff, they don't allow enough lead time to work out all the bugs.
They know the thing works but they don't know how it will react after 8 or 10 years or so.


That's a good point, but air bags have been out since the 90's and should have the bugs worked out by now.... #-o
 
I think it's conflicting that the airbags are a "safety" item, but still can injure and kill people????


Then when you get in an accident and they go off, it costs 3k or more to replace them. This sometimes pushes cars that could be fixed into the "totalled" group because of the cost of replacing all of the air bags that went off in the crash....

If you wear a seat belt, you don't really need an air bag....

Not to mention he damage to the CAR the airbags do when they deploy. Broken windshields, totally bent and twisted dash frames, sometimes bent and ruined steering wheels. It's stupid.
 
That's a good point, but air bags have been out since the 90's and should have the bugs worked out by now.... #-o

They actually date back to the 1940s, so yeah, there's been plenty of time to perfect them.
 
No way ANOTHER recall for Honda Toyota they have one like EVERY week..foreign "crap"...although Fiat/mopar ain't much better now!!
 
I think it's amazing that all the vehicles are over ten years old.
And with a huge sample size of two million cars it took ten years to determine there's a problem?
 
They actually date back to the 1940s, so yeah, there's been plenty of time to perfect them.

While the concept has been around for decades, the new technology applied to it is relatively new.

It's like saying the airplane has been around since 1901, That's true, but except for the basic design of the wing ( or in this case airbag) the original has little, if anything in common with the present design.
 
Air bags have been around since man learned to speak.
All the hot air ones are defective!
 

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