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MOPARMAGA said:
I bet with this administration they will be change the term "space aliens" to "galactic foreign nationals"
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LoL.

What’s the difference between a State Citizen, US citizen and American National?

Is a State Citizen and American National foreign to the United States? And is a American National foreign to both the US and state? Isn’t a “State” an artificial entity?
 
Scody21 said:
LoL.

What’s the difference between a State Citizen, US citizen and American National?

Is a State Citizen and American National foreign to the United States? And is a American National foreign to both the US and state? Isn’t a “State” an artificial entity?
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Good question, state is artificial. Just a tax collector
 
Steve welder said:
I simply addressed the topic of "freedoms" which I believe we have more than any other country in the world. If what I wrote is talking "crap", thats your interputation
If that offended you, than you have a good night as well
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So because you think this nation is freer than any other nation that’s OK? That’s very juvenile thinking. In the last 125 years we have lost so many freedoms that you can’t even count them all. You can’t even get married without the permission of the government that rules you. That’s a very new phenomenon in this country. Your idea of freedom is what the socialist wants you to believe the idea of freedom is. So you need to rethink what your basic thought process is
And reevaluate what you think.
 
Rat Bastid said:
So because you think this nation is freer than any other nation that’s OK? That’s very juvenile thinking. In the last 125 years we have lost so many freedoms that you can’t even count them all. You can’t even get married without the permission of the government that rules you. That’s a very new phenomenon in this country. Your idea of freedom is what the socialist wants you to believe the idea of freedom is. So you need to rethink what your basic thought process is
And reevaluate what you think.
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Or feed yourself from the bounty of earth. Fishing / hunting licenses. God given rights have been changed into privileges, and privileges need the OK (aka permit/license) for something to legal. Sounds like freedom...
 
Scody21 said:
Or feed yourself from the bounty of earth. Fishing / hunting licenses. God given rights have been changed into privileges, and privileges need the OK (aka permit/license) for something to legal. Sounds like freedom...
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Not just permission, but Fees, Taxes, and Fines/ Jail for non compliance
 
Rat Bastid said:
So because you think this nation is freer than any other nation that’s OK? That’s very juvenile thinking. In the last 125 years we have lost so many freedoms that you can’t even count them all. You can’t even get married without the permission of the government that rules you. That’s a very new phenomenon in this country. Your idea of freedom is what the socialist wants you to believe the idea of freedom is. So you need to rethink what your basic thought process is
And reevaluate what you think.
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Maybe you might reevaluate how you think. Id like you to list exactly what "freedoms" you personally think you lost in 125 years......Like so many others you confuse freedoms with selfishness....Its the I want syndrome. Its not freedom you crave, its the idea of doing anything that comes into your mind with a self serving attitude that is hooray for me and screw you.....
You mention marriage, your free to marry anybody you want, be that person of a different race, religion or even the same gender. How is that not freedom?
If your referring to getting a marriage license, that is not asking the government for permission.

I understand how it works, I talked of a license to drive a vehicle, a license to hunt and some twist that into the government taking away freedoms. Rubbish, complete nonsense
 
Steve welder said:
Maybe you might reevaluate how you think. Id like you to list exactly what "freedoms" you personally think you lost in 125 years......Like so many others you confuse freedoms with selfishness....Its the I want syndrome. Its not freedom you crave, its the idea of doing anything that comes into your mind with a self serving attitude that is hooray for me and screw you.....
You mention marriage, your free to marry anybody you want, be that person of a different race, religion or even the same gender. How is that not freedom?
If your referring to getting a marriage license, that is not asking the government for permission.

I understand how it works, I talked of a license to drive a vehicle, a license to hunt and some twist that into the government taking away freedoms. Rubbish, complete nonsense
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Seems to me I remember my Mom ( rip) had to even get blood work for her marriage...
 
Ironracer said:
Seems to me I remember my Mom ( rip) had to even get blood work for her marriage...
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So? At the time there was a reason for those tests and if memory serves me correct my wife and I had to get a blood test also
Than again there was no confusing requirements like that with this self serving whining I hear all the time now.......
 
Steve welder said:
Maybe you might reevaluate how you think. Id like you to list exactly what "freedoms" you personally think you lost in 125 years......Like so many others you confuse freedoms with selfishness....Its the I want syndrome. Its not freedom you crave, its the idea of doing anything that comes into your mind with a self serving attitude that is hooray for me and screw you.....
You mention marriage, your free to marry anybody you want, be that person of a different race, religion or even the same gender. How is that not freedom?
If your referring to getting a marriage license, that is not asking the government for permission.

I understand how it works, I talked of a license to drive a vehicle, a license to hunt and some twist that into the government taking away freedoms. Rubbish, complete nonsense
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A marriage license is the most binding 3 way contract there is.

The Goverment has turned humans into “persons”
Legal person - Wikipedia

AkA a Corporation.
 
Scody21 said:
The Husband, Wife, State. How do you think Kids are turned into wards of the state?
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When they don't have parents or relatives that are able to take care of them the state takes care of them so they don’t end up fending for themselves on the street? Is that what your asking?
 
92b said:
When they don't have parents or relatives that are able to take care of them the state takes care of them so they don’t end up fending for themselves on the street? Is that what your asking?
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No. Was talking about how the state has control of the “Person”...
 
92b said:
Oh. Which person?
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All persons, as a “PERSON” is a Corporation aka a business. This is why you have to pay income tax. As only businesses have income. Humans don’t realize that a Slave Service Number is a contact that their mother signed them up for. There is more to this.

Everything to do with Goverment is to deal with Business. People are a business.

Why does the Dept. of Ag count the census? Just like thay count the livestock census yearly...

Goverment charters Business. Business is Goverment, Goverment is Business.

Humans are Natural, Persons/ States/ Goverment are artificial.

State= Satin (this ones for AJ)

Pharmaceutical = Pharma (Latin) = Poison
 
Scody21 said:
All persons, as a “PERSON” is a Corporation aka a business. This is why you have to pay income tax. As only businesses have income. Humans don’t realize that a Slave Service Number is a contact that their mother signed them up for. There is more to this.

Everything to do with Goverment is to deal with Business. People are a business.

Why does the Dept. of Ag count the census? Just like thay count the livestock census yearly...

Goverment charters Business. Business is Goverment, Goverment is Business.

Humans are Natural, Persons/ States/ Goverment are artificial.

State= Satin (this ones for AJ)

Pharmaceutical = Pharma (Latin) = Poison
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Cynical.
 
Steve welder said:
Maybe you might reevaluate how you think. Id like you to list exactly what "freedoms" you personally think you lost in 125 years......Like so many others you confuse freedoms with selfishness....Its the I want syndrome. Its not freedom you crave, its the idea of doing anything that comes into your mind with a self serving attitude that is hooray for me and screw you.....
You mention marriage, your free to marry anybody you want, be that person of a different race, religion or even the same gender. How is that not freedom?
If your referring to getting a marriage license, that is not asking the government for permission.

I understand how it works, I talked of a license to drive a vehicle, a license to hunt and some twist that into the government taking away freedoms. Rubbish, complete nonsense
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Anytime you have to ask the government permission to do something you have lost of freedom. If you can’t recognize that no one can explain to you how big a slave you really are.
 
92b said:
Are you an american national?
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I’m a Californian.

Everyone should be. Everyone is a State Citizen, which is an American National. The United States is a 10 square mile district of a foreign state corporation. Being a Citizen is like being a member at Costco.

Here’s a hit. Go to the Post Office and get a DS-11 form, AKA a passport form. Read the signature box and really read the “acts and conditions” section...:
 
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Scody21 said:
I’m a Californian.

Everyone should be. Everyone is a State Citizen, which is an American National. The United States is a 10 square mile district of a foreign state corporation. Being a Citizen is like being a member at Costco.
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Sorry, Can you break that down so a third grader would understand. That still might not be enough for me. lol
 
Rat Bastid said:
Anytime you have to ask the government permission to do something you have lost of freedom. If you can’t recognize that no one can explain to you how big a slave you really are.
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I never asked the government permission to do anything...... I do follow the rule of law and regulations created for the being of an orderly society......Big difference
 
Steve welder said:
I never asked the government permission to do anything...... I do follow the rule of law and regulations created for the being of an orderly society......Big difference
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So you don’t / didn’t = Drive, hunt, fish, marriages, gamble, pay taxes, have a professional license, think realtor, lawyer, CPA, hair stylist, get a building permit, get a passport? If ya did, you asked the Goverment for permission to do such thing... remember signing the forms? You agreed to the terms and conditions of said GOV contract... knowingly or not..
 
Scody21 said:
So you don’t / didn’t = Drive, hunt, fish, marriages, gamble, pay taxes, have a professional license, think realtor, lawyer, CPA, hair stylist, get a building permit, get a passport? If ya did, you asked the Goverment for permission to do such thing... remember signing the forms? You agreed to the terms and conditions of said GOV contract... knowingly or not..
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Never asked for permission...... Followed the regulations and rules and applied. Again big difference.
You seem to think having to apply for any permit is asking for permission, it's not. What if we all did whatever it was we pleased with no regard for the results or how it impacted anyone around us....
How would that work?
But thinking about it you may have a point..... I did ask for permission, that being when I served, in fact I asked for permission for a lot of things back than
Would you consider that being a "slave"
 
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