What is a Demon Clone worth?

[a34]

Hey Guys,

I have a buddy that wants to sell his Demon Clone. I'm interested in buying it, and want to give him a fair price, but don't want to overpay. I would like your expert opinions on what it's worth.

It is a 71 model that started life as a 6cyl. He is the second owner, bought out of Reno, NV. White with Black interior, bench seat, auto on column. He added the hood scoops, stripes, rear spoiler, small bolt ralleys. It has a fairly stock engine bay with your typical MP valve covers, aluminum intake, TTI headers, Disc Brake conversion. It has a warmed up 340 with 727 and 3.55 gear. No a/c. Very solid car, no rust, has nice paint now and it totally done. New interior, suspension, engine, tranny, everything.

What is this worth on today's market? How would it compare price wise to a real 340 car restored? I'd say this car is a very high end daily driver type car quality wise.

Thanks !!!

 

[memike]

This is always a hard topic to get a good answer on without looking at the quality work that got dun on the car when the engine and other part were swap out.
But it does sound like a sweet a bodie. With allot of good part's.
I would figure out how much the car was worth before the work was dun, and then add the work dun together and you should be ok.
I would be afraid to say. Pic's would help.

 

[demon seed]

If it's as good as you say 15 to 20 K but pictures would help a lot. The paint would have to be damn near perfect as well as the interior and the underbody.

 

[7demon2]

i think you are in the right range demonseed. the work done, and the cost to do it, would put it in the range of 15,000 easy....

 

[a34]

If it's as good as you say 15 to 20 K but pictures would help a lot. The paint would have to be damn near perfect as well as the interior and the underbody.

Thanks Gents. I want to be fair to both of us. He's asking $18K. Sounds like that is top dollar, but then, like I told my wife, "You can't take a $500 rusty shell and build one for that."

 

[demon seed]

As a side note, if it was me buying it I'd want to see the underside on a lift with a good flash light. Check for everything and anything.

Terry

 

[71 Dart]

First there is not a thing wrong with clones. But to determine value I'd say ask what you'd be willing to pay for this car if it didn't have the Demon badging / identification. After all it is not a Demon, If the car is a 71 Duster made into a Demon clone, what would you be willing to pay for a 71 Duster resto'd and built as this car is?

And no matter what car this is or any other, any car is worth what anyone is willing to pay for it. Willing and able that is. Sounds like a nice ride for sure. good luck.

 

[340mopar]

First there is not a thing wrong with clones.

That depends on what side of the fence you are on. I have owned plenty the "real McCoys" and will tell you that it is quite annoying having someone come up to you and say that I have one of these too... It's right over there and you go look at it and it is a fake, yes fake, not clone. So there is something wrong with a fake, especially if they are asking to much for one and if someone is trying to pass it off as real. Calling them clones is one of the ways it is trying to be glorified. Let's call them what they are fakes.


Chuck

 

[340mopar]

a34 when you say clone Demon is it really a /6 Demon and someone put a 340 in it or is it a Duster that someone converted to a Demon which can be done by putting a Demon taillight panel and Dart nose on the Duster? A Demon in it's own right is more desireable than a Duster because they only made them 2 years. What a vehicle is worth is in direct relation on how much someone is willing to pay. Like the other guys have said if it is solid and you don't mind paying the money then buy it. If you think it is to much for you then you shouldn't buy it. I have been down both paths, I have spent more for a car than the market value but because I had to have it. Also I have purchased cars that were way below market value, it all seems to work out in the end.
I know you read my last thread and don't get me wrong if you want to make or purchase a car how you want it then that's perfect. I am taking a /6 '72 Duster and putting a 340 in it, it's not a clone, it is now a 340 powered /6 Duster and that's all it will ever be and that's fine with me. I will tell you that I have had a lot more fun in my plain jane cars than the "real" ones because of the worry of something happening to them. This is why I don't have the real ones anymore. I made a ton of money on them, now I'm having fun.

Chuck

 

[a34]

a34 when you say clone Demon is it really a /6 Demon and someone put a 340 in it or is it a Duster that someone converted to a Demon which can be done by putting a Demon taillight panel and Dart nose on the Duster? A Demon in it's own right is more desireable than a Duster because they only made them 2 years. What a vehicle is worth is in direct relation on how much someone is willing to pay. Like the other guys have said if it is solid and you don't mind paying the money then buy it. If you think it is to much for you then you shouldn't buy it. I have been down both paths, I have spent more for a car than the market value but because I had to have it. Also I have purchased cars that were way below market value, it all seems to work out in the end.
I know you read my last thread and don't get me wrong if you want to make or purchase a car how you want it then that's perfect. I am taking a /6 '72 Duster and putting a 340 in it, it's not a clone, it is now a 340 powered /6 Duster and that's all it will ever be and that's fine with me. I will tell you that I have had a lot more fun in my plain jane cars than the "real" ones because of the worry of something happening to them. This is why I don't have the real ones anymore. I made a ton of money on them, now I'm having fun.

Chuck

I guess I should have been more specific. This is a /6 Demon cloned to 340 Demon. However, when I say clone, I mean it in the original sense it was coined. Meaning, the car looks just like a 71 340 Demon with the exception of the VIN. Yes, it has been hot-rodded a little with headers, aluminum intake etc., but so have most of the originals.

I think clones, fakes, and original cars all have their place. My concern here is a fair price for the car in question. I don't want to be screwed, and I don't want my buddy to think I'm low-balling him on the car. I too have paid more for a car than it's worth. $2k more is no big deal, but $5K or more, and I'll be peeved.

Unfortunately, I don't have any pics right now. I hope to get some this weekend. I'll post then, but I'll probably have made a deal with him by then too. I was hoping based on my general description, I could get a ballpark and you guys have helped me with that. $15-$20K and he wants $18K. So, maybe there's some wiggle room, if not no sweat. I've known the car for a few years and it is a high quality car. I wasn't in the market for a Demon, but when he decided to sell it, I decided I'd better try and buy it, if it's at all feasible, or I'll be kicking myself in the rear for the next 30 years for not buying it. :0)

 

[dustertogo]

What a vehicle is worth is in direct relation on how much someone is willing to pay.

Bingo! I've known several situations where guys decided to "test the market" and put their cars up for several thousand dollars more than what a more realistic price would have been only to have someone offer them exactly what they were trying to get for it. While a worth or value can be set on a car based on alot of things including comps between it and similar cars, the true worth of the car is as Chuck said relative to how much a prospective buyer is willing to pay. Would it be worth the same to you and me? Maybe, maybe not.........doesn't really matter. If one of us thinks it is and plops down the cash, that's all that really matters.

 

[demon seed]

Dear A34, dear dear A34, if you like the car, and it sounds like you, then go ahead and buy it. You and nobody else is the best judge of what you like. My 71 Demon used to be a slant 6 "Demon" but now instead of the /6-904-8 1/4 its now got a 383-727-8 3/4 but it's still a "Demon" and I believe it's feeling much better, I know I am. Personally I hate the term "clone" and since mine and the Demon you're looking at came out of the factory as a Demon, they ain't clones either, they're altered, yea I like that, altered, kind of rolls of the tongue don't it. Behold my altered Demon and I expect you to post pics of yours if you buy it.

Terry

 

[a34]

Dear A34, dear dear A34, if you like the car, and it sounds like you, then go ahead and buy it. You and nobody else is the best judge of what you like. My 71 Demon used to be a slant 6 "Demon" but now instead of the /6-904-8 1/4 its now got a 383-727-8 3/4 but it's still a "Demon" and I believe it's feeling much better, I know I am. Personally I hate the term "clone" and since mine and the Demon you're looking at came out of the factory as a Demon, they ain't clones either, they're altered, yea I like that, altered, kind of rolls of the tongue don't it. Behold my altered Demon and I expect you to post pics of yours if you buy it.

Terry

Altered - I like that.

 

[340mopar]

demon seed it is nice to here that I'm not the only one that doesn't like the clone term, altered is a good term. Let's face it guys most of us couldn't order these things new, so since we can't get them the way we would have ordered them we have to build them that way, nothing wrong with that, I am one of these people.

Chuck

 

[mommasdart]

hey guys everyone on here is saying 15k to 20k for a very very nice 340 demon which i agree with but it is a Non # matching car and i would never give over 15k for a 6cyl car with a 340 in it so in the market i am in the car would go for between 12500 to 15000 and it better be very very nice. It would bring 15k to 20k if it was REAL. thats my opinion but if u want it its worth what u will pay i guess.