Where to find new pump to carb fuel line set for '65 Barracuda Formula S 4 bbl

[Bob Jasinski]

Does anyone know a vendor that offers the two piece fuel line set for the '65 273 4bbl used in Formula S from the pump to the carb? I ordered a set from Inline tube and got the 2 bbl version, it won't fit. Called them and they don't make the 4 bbl version. I don't have a pattern to follow and if I did, I don't have the flaring tool to make the "bubble" flare on the tube where the rubber hose slips on. Suggestions?

 

[junkyardhero]

classic carries a boat load of pre bent fuel lines for pump to carb, might be worth a look?

 

[Dana67Dart]

In line tube too.

 

[eekvonzipper]

In line tube too.

Agreed, I used some of their parts and just made something myself.
Takes an hour, it's easy. Just do it.

 

[Bob Jasinski]

In line tube too.

Inline tube does not make it. I ordered their set and it is for 2bbl only, and they won't take it back.

 

[Beams]

Here’s what I put on my 4 barrel 273. I figured a small block is a small block. Had to do some VERY minor bending to make it fit through the alternator bracket.

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[Bob Jasinski]

I just tried Classic Ind and no dice. Slant 6 only

 

[Beams]

Here’s a pic

 

[Bob Jasinski]

Here’s what I put on my 4 barrel 273. I figured a small block is a small block. Had to do some VERY minor bending to make it fit through the alternator bracket.

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What did you install them on? Summit says '67 up, not '65

 

[Beams]

It’s a 1967 273 presumably stock fuel pump and stock carter afb. I don’t know firsthand, but I assumed fuel pumps and Carters of that era wouldn’t have changed much. @junkyardhero would probably know if there were any significant changes.

 

[junkyardhero]

It’s a 1967 273 presumably stock fuel pump and stock carter afb. I don’t know firsthand, but I assumed fuel pumps and Carters of that era wouldn’t have changed much. @junkyardhero would probably know if there were any significant changes.

i don't have a ton of specific knowledge, but the early stuff is a little different-- alt bracket, the manifold/carb height may be a factor as well. however, most all of the pumps (and all small block for that matter) are set up the same in & out.

unless you're going for a 100% stock OE install i'd think something off of another model 4bbl should work with a little tweak. at least from the pump up to the filter. then a secondary from filter to carb, or just fab that piece up with tube and bend to your desired shape.

 

[Professor Fate]

I don't have the flaring tool to make the "bubble" flare on the tube where the rubber hose slips on.

If you have a flaring tool for a double inverted flare, you can make the "bubble".
Just use the first set of dies to form the slight "bubble".

 

[Bob Jasinski]

If you have a flaring tool for a double inverted flare, you can make the "bubble".
Just use the first set of dies to form the slight "bubble".

I have the double flare tool, I need to experiment with it. Here's what the factory setup looks like.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Decent tubing tools are dirt cheap. My advice is to get the tools, get some line and make it up. Use a piece of coat hanger wire as a guide to get your bends right. It's really easy to do. Why not learn something new?

 

[Dana67Dart]

Inline tube does not make it. I ordered their set and it is for 2bbl only, and they won't take it back

That's bad customer service. Makes me think twice about buying from them

 

[65dartcharger]

The 273 2 barrel and the 273 4 barrel have the same tube routing from the fuel pump up to beside the thermostat housing.
On the 273 with a A/C compressor and the bracket it's a different routing.
The tube is going close on the top of the timing chain cover. Then a loop up beside thermostat housing.

 

[George Jets]

Here is probably the route of the small block gas line you are looking for.

We make them up ourselves. You can usually find used or new lower loops with the correct ends that go from the fuel pump to the fuel filter. Simplifies the whole operation when you can get your hands on those.

Like to have the fuel filters set up like this standing up so the air bubble goes to the top, and it keeps a horizontal fuel filter and its connections off of a hot intake manifold.



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[Bob Jasinski]

Decent tubing tools are dirt cheap. My advice is to get the tools, get some line and make it up. Use a piece of coat hanger wire as a guide to get your bends right. It's really easy to do. Why not learn something new?

Rusty, I know how to flare and bend fuel and brake lines, I have the tools. In the '90s I restored a '51 Chrysler convertible and did all the lines myself. I'm at the point with this project that if a good reproduction it out there, I'll seek it out to save time and effort to get the car done, its been apart since 2009. Having written that, I like your idea of using the wire coat hanger as a template, appreciate the suggestion.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Rusty, I know how to flare and bend fuel and brake lines, I have the tools. In the '90s I restored a '51 Chrysler convertible and did all the lines myself. I'm at the point with this project that if a good reproduction it out there, I'll seek it out to save time and effort to get the car done, its been apart since 2009. Having written that, I like your idea of using the wire coat hanger as a template, appreciate the suggestion.

You bet. Just a bit of advice. I would not get stainless line. It is very hard and often times is extremely difficult to get to seal.

 

[junkyardhero]

if you're adamant about not wanted to fab 'em up yourself, you could probably make do by using two separate "kits".

the 273 2bbl one as mentioned being the same up to the manifold-- which you've already got and cain't return, so lemonade there. then just scoop up a 4bbl set up and use the carb side to complete the square.

i don't know what carb you're running but eddy sells a hard line with banjo fitting that'll get you most of the way to where the pump line would be.

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it's not super correct, but it solves a bunch of problems. they also have a version that incorporates a filter if that floats your goat.

or something like this in addition to the line you already have

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[Bob Jasinski]

I went ahead and made up the lines myself. I had a new 5/16 Edelman 4' line from a past project that was flared with nuts on both ends. Making the U turn from the fuel pump was challenging, but I got it done. I'm getting a Mopar fuel filter, once installed I'll post pictures. I tried Rusty's suggestion with the coat hanger wire, it helped me figure out the bends and allowed me to determine if I had enough tubing. The 4' tube was just right with a bit left over. I still need to make the bubble flares on the filter ends. Thanks for all the support guys!

 

[Bob Jasinski]

Here's the end product. I ended up doing the upper line twice, I didn't like the 90 on the first attempt. Turned out great, those angles are challenging to get right. I followed Professor Fate's advice and used the die to make the bubbles for the filter ends. These lines (straight with flared ends and nuts) used to be easy to get in parts stores, now the ones they carry have a coating over them. I was able to get an 18" line from Rock Auto to redo the upper one. It was a Dorman Fuel line repair type came with a different fitting on the end but I just cut it off and flared the line and reused the nut I had. Otherwise you have to buy the line in 25' coils.