2nd try? On the cheap friendly comp?

Who wants to show the world how to get'er done cheap!

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I just recently finished my workshop and I've finally started tearing into my dart. So I guess I might as well take part. I'm doing a more all-over resto-mod but my budget is very very tight, so perfect.

So.. Should we each make a thread showing progress and costs as we go? Perhaps link it here? Should we just post our results here?

Timetable? How about this year? We'll call it our New year's resolution!

And one gripe:

rumblefish360 said:
Turbo's and Blowers are cheap? Good, get me one if you use one or don't bother posting in the go fast cheap thread. Theres no such thing as a cheap turbo or blower. If you point to e-gag for the cheap turbos there, I disagree on them actually being a real turbo.

Blowers and turbo's are out.
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Say that to a pair of junkyard truck turbos for $60/piece Sitting on a shelf in my shop. I've yet to decide whether to put the car together N/A and turbo it later, or do the junkyard turbo thing from the get-go, but either way, I've a mind to build an engine with mostly stock internals and a smidge of boost as opposed to going into heads cam and bottom end stuff. I'd like to know that if I go turbo I'm not going to be shunned from the competition. Believe me, if I can't keep it cheap, the turbo aint happening.
 
Yes, make a thread to document!
Post your own costs.
The time table is --- Sometime this year! Make it to the track and report back!

The idea of cheap is also simple. This is the idea of limiting the cars to a N/A status.
Simple bolt on's. The very thing rookies do.

This thread or the other one, this topic was brought up. Pressurize engines are slated for the next round as well as N02 and/or both, aftermarket heads, porting what ever, how ever.

Used turbos, used super chargers are not exactly easy to get for everyone and cheaply. After all, you did read right when it was all geared toward the rookie and novice crew to copy what they may like. An easy replication.
 
Rumble, I find this very interesting. I don't have the money to pursue such a thing, but still it's provacative.
 
derrangedgadgeteer said:
cool beans. Should we try and minimize using wild tools too in that case? Stick to the briefcase flux core welders and such?
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Can you give me an example?

67Dart273 said:
Rumble, I find this very interesting. I don't have the money to pursue such a thing, but still it's provacative.
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Thanks bud. This isn't for everybody to get in on but it should be a fun way to have fun, show off a little with others that are also starting a ground up power enhancement of there rides on a simple and easy going level. And anyway they want to do it.

I'm looking very forward to some of the results and players we have on the list. 318willrun has my attention as well as a few others like Rani who wants to keep her car on the thought train of "Like how the factory would have done it, if they did it back then." I love that idea even though there are certain handy caps/draw backs to doing this like the use of exhaust manifolds instead of headers. Not that you can't go fast with exhaust manifolds but you do have to get a little creative.
 
After 25 yrs in the military I do not think so. I am just funning! It is on the cheap right? What is more cheap than that? You feeling ok lately?
 
halifaxhops said:
After 25 yrs in the military I do not think so. I am just funning! It is on the cheap right? What is more cheap than that? You feeling ok lately?
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Yeah, I am actually feelin kinda frisky. How bout you. You doin ok?

And as for "fuel" my crap will probably run on 87. We don't call that fuel down here. It's just gas. lol
 
Yeah we get that also with 10% ethanol, but it seems like this time of year there is more.2.39 for 87 and a Sunoco here has 94 for 2.89.
 
rumblefish360 said:
Seriously, LOL! That's funny!
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Nothing serious here.

I try, obviously not everyone gets the humor!

I wonder who will pay for the calories burned?

Loser pays the labor?

Coat hangers only for welding?

who will keep the wife away while doing this? I must have a full kegerator to win. Who will pay for that?

Will Obama care pay for injuries occurred? If so I will sign up!

If Socialist get a discount or government funding I am back in I pulled out early, again. Dammit another 15,000 page rule book I need to read.
 
!!!!!! LOL!!!!!

Yea, it is easier to miss humor on the net. Reading text can be easy but it isn't allways so easy to pick up on how it is ment to be read or the feelings behind it.

HEY! We're up to 29 crazy people!!!!
 
I voted "yes, I'm in" because I will get an E.T. slip from something :) ! However, don't know that I will be able to buy and dedicate a car for this purpose. My funds are limited, I have a yard of cars now (but nothing that would make a good entry), and I have other projects (house stuff) I'm working on (and spending$$$$$). But I will try to do something.......
 
Ha ha ha! Sounds like most of us. At least the first available track opening isn't for a few months away IF the weather is good. The southern parts of the states may get in earlier.

Come spring, I'll be doing a driveway. 2 driveways connected to make an "H". Good for the sometimes busy road.
Then, On to the kitchen.
 
I don't understand why when people start talking go fast for cheap, and in the next breath try and disqualify nitrous. Nitrous is the definition of go fast for cheap.

Maybe instead you should say all parts have to come from a junkyard and at some point, somewhere came from the factory.
 
Is this going off a trust system or what? I have seen some small blocks with iron heads and stupid money machine work run real fast. It is a great idea and I may throw my old j heads back on and get in on the fun :)
 
Hersbird said:
I don't understand why when people start talking go fast for cheap, and in the next breath try and disqualify nitrous. Nitrous is the definition of go fast for cheap.

Maybe instead you should say all parts have to come from a junkyard and at some point, somewhere came from the factory.
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Nitrous is not newbie friendly. I takes lots of experience to tune correctly. It's not just about cheap.
 
doogievlg said:
Is this going off a trust system or what? I have seen some small blocks with iron heads and stupid money machine work run real fast. It is a great idea and I may throw my old j heads back on and get in on the fun :)
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Yes. We're using the honor system. If you cheat, how does that help a newbie to the hobby? That's why we're doing this. So newbies to the hobby can get ideas abut how to go fast cheap AND easily.
 
RustyRatRod said:
Yes. We're using the honor system. If you cheat, how does that help a newbie to the hobby? That's why we're doing this. So newbies to the hobby can get ideas abut how to go fast cheap AND easily.
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This is the premise, I love. I have thrown money at hot street cars before, too damn easy to get expensive. (To Me) Much more, satisfying on a budget. FWIW, Rumblefish 360 : If Metalidart scored a cheap set of W-2 castings, let him run 'em. Still the same time /cost, to tune the combination.I would ask for no/ mild pocket work. Just my take.
 
Hersbird said:
I don't understand why when people start talking go fast for cheap, and in the next breath try and disqualify nitrous. Nitrous is the definition of go fast for cheap.

Maybe instead you should say all parts have to come from a junkyard and at some point, somewhere came from the factory.
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Power adders are the main reason. You want NO2 and then the next guy complains that his supercharger is cheap because it was given to him by Dad, whom spend 5K on it and didn't mind "Giving it to his son!"

Someone PM'd me complaining that his twin turbo stroker should be OK'd for this. How is a 422 twin turbo cheap? I don't know ether. But it was his contention to argue since someone else said they can get junk yard turbos cheap and use them.

It just seems to escape that cheap basic bolt on's that the average new guy does is part of the cheap theme. While NO2 is cheap, easy to install, it takes a more experienced hand to tune and have a living engine for a long time. It is easy, but it is not easy.
But it is a power adder were are avoiding.
Power adders are slated for the next round. Once this is up and running, as well as working well, then it will progress.


Abodybomber said:
This is the premise, I love. I have thrown money at hot street cars before, too damn easy to get expensive. (To Me) Much more, satisfying on a budget. FWIW, Rumblefish 360 : If Metalidart scored a cheap set of W-2 castings, let him run 'em. Still the same time /cost, to tune the combination.I would ask for no/ mild pocket work. Just my take.
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OK, that is one positive vote for the man with stupid super cheap W2 heads!
(Yea, can you tell that I'm just a little jelous....." )
If you guys OK his super score on the heads as OK, then OK!
It's just not so easily repeatable, price wise. That's it. No more, no less.
 
This really isn't that hard to get.... What would you expect a young person that took an interest into our hobby to mess around with??? To a lot of these newbies, installing a 4bbl is a task. A lot of these newbies have no idea about lift and duration. So, would you expect a kid in his back yard to do a twin turbo stroker motor by visiting a local junkyard on a limited budget?????? This isn't what I see at all. I hope this friendly race shows "real opportunity" and "fun" to build their enthusiasm! If a car in this friendly race runs 11's, somebody missed the "simple" and "cheap" for the newbie. My 1st pass EVER on a strip was in a 150.00 dollar wore out '73 swinger with a 318 2bbl. I ran a 16.72 in that hunk of junk. Let's show them that you do not have to have a '68 GTX with a stroker motor, and a banker for a dad to participate in our hobby. You can have fun in our hobby in high school working at Hardees part time. Let's feed enthusiasm!
 
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