HOW MUCH for NEW GEARS INSTALLED?

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pastortom1

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Guys.........

I just got an estimate for a set of Yukon 3.23's installed in my 489 case and properly set-up, "in the car".......My gears are just too noisy for words.....as a matter of fact, I have words with 'em every time I take the car out of the driveway.

They quoted me $850. in the car......(specialty shop...drivelines only)......I nearly fell outa' my chair........

Is that a reasonable estimate ???
 
...........Give Cass a call @ Dr. Diff.........he's da man.....u can get a complete unit from him ready to install, then sell ur old 1 if u have a sure grip...........kim........
 
Out of the car,me suppling the ring and pinion,(all new bearings from them)$600 bucks.This was about 5 years ago out here in Vegas.Shop labor rate at that time was $95 bucks a hour.Everything nowadays $$$........
 
I forgot to say that with that price,if noisey they would repair/replace at their cost.
A guy I know that is super pickey had them redo his 3 times.They did it, no questions.
 
I am a driveline shop, depending who's gears it's right in the park, kinda more towards box seats pricing a little high so i would expect U.S. stuff only. . .

But here it would be gears and bearings plus 350 in car includes Lucas oil.... so figure around 700 to 750
 
How about sending a center section out? What does that typically run for labor (I'd get the gears myself)? I'm thinking I trashed my pinion pretty bad when the nut came loose on it, so I figure I'll probably look into new gears if I manage to find the right housing I want.
 
I forgot to say that with that price,if noisey they would repair/replace at their cost.
A guy I know that is super pickey had them redo his 3 times.They did it, no questions.

I have had numerous 3rd members set up by Drive Line Service in Vegas...at most i paid was 200 bucks...
 
I had my pumpkin out of the car. I supplied the gears and install kit, I was charged 250 labor to install the gears and install kit. 850 sounds outrageous, it is too simple to remove and replace the pumpkin and it saves you money. The gears and kit cost about 250 plus the labor total 500. I don't see where the other 350 would come from. JMO

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For $200 I have a 3.23 or a 2.76 I think in a 489 cases, but does that really matter ?
They are used but should work fine and I will give you a money back guarantee.
 
Hopefully at $850 they supply the lube...for more than just the diff.
 
This sure gives me more incentive to re-learn how to set them up.
Did it a few times in the 80s. Haven't done it since.

I'm ALL about saving hundreds of dollars!
 
If they are also doing the axle bearings then that is a good price.

pastortom never gave details of what exactly he's getting, and some of you guys need to read, he did say he was dropping the car off and they are doing the entire job, he isn't dropping off the center.
 
I guess if you are dropping it off and they are replacing all new ring and pinon bearngs, but sounds like it could be done cheaper, especially if you have any mechanical ability.
 
Guys.........

I just got an estimate for a set of Yukon 3.23's installed in my 489 case and properly set-up, "in the car".......My gears are just too noisy for words.....as a matter of fact, I have words with 'em every time I take the car out of the driveway.

They quoted me $850. in the car......(specialty shop...drivelines only)......I nearly fell outa' my chair........

Is that a reasonable estimate ???
It very well could be reasonable. It depends on what it includes. To give an estimate over the phone puts the shop in a position where they almost have to give a high end estimate. Remember they have to guarantee their work so corners can't be cut. I refuse to give estimates until I can see the car & make a diagnosis or evaluation 1st.

Let's look at it for a miniute.

R&R differential housing, inspect it for damage, are they replacing the diff bearings & races- added cost(remember the noise issue?- probably a good idea), replace pinion bearing & seal & related hardware, inspect differential(posi unit) for wear, install & set up ring & pinion, inspect axle bearings, replace axle seals & adjust rear brakes, replace differential fluid(synthetic maybe?), Road test to confirm repairs & provide a guarantee.

So you see what one guy may have paid to have a set of gears slapped in by some guy who does gears may not be fair to compare to what a professional doing an overhaul may need to charge. My point is repairs to anything isn't cheap if you need it done right. Expertise comes at a price too. You get what you pay for. CROCK Auto may sell parts cheap, but are they really professional grade? Not likely! It's apples to oranges. I'd suggest finding out what exactly is being quoted in the estimate then make comparsions. A higher price than expected doesn't necessarily mean a rip-off.
 
I guess if you are dropping it off and they are replacing all new ring and pinon bearngs, but sounds like it could be done cheaper, especially if you have any mechanical ability.


It could be done cheaper if you have the dial indicator, torque meter, torque wrench, dept tooling, press and pullers, spanner wrenches or other tools depending which diff.
 
I just purchased all new parts including the case for a Ford 9" Chunk. My parts set up ready to install, Labor was $175.00. If a shop is pulling all of it installing the gears making it ready to Run It seems ok. One thing to remember is the UP SELL after he takes it apart. Be prepared for them to tell you something else is messed up whether it is or not. I bet you will not be leaving there with a bill less than $1200.00 is my guess.

Why don't you pull it yourself and bring it to them. A novice could have it all apart in about 1 Hour with the 3rd member on the ground easily. Doing this would save you some $$ and pay for new axle bearings, fluids, gaskets etc.
 
The mechanic will charge whatever he feels he can suck outta you. I'd go elsewhere,$900 is a rippoff in anyones book's. You shouldnt have to pay for your mechanics daughter's colledge education.
 
The price he was given wasn't a rip off, and it was 850 not 900, might as well say he was charged $2,000.

Even at $850 you ain't paying for his daughters college, that's just a stupid stupid comment to make. You're paying for his knowledge and what to do when there is a situation that isn't available in a book or a tool made for the problem that just happened, then what do you do when you can't set it up? ? ? what do you do with your 5 minutes of knowledge from the internet that doesn't have the answer.

I find it funny how people are so quick to turn into jerk offs and make f'ed up comments, he is going to a professional shop that has years of experience and if they are like mine he will get the best job done...
The professional shop has insurance to pay, workers comp, all kinds of taxes, and tools and equipment, utilities and other overhead.

A mechanic that is there for a job and salary, so lets say it takes an hour to get the rear apart, and another 3 hours to set up and put back together.
That's 85 an hour WITHOUT any bs problems creeping out of left field...
Of that 85 an hour , the mechanic gets his 4 hours salary if it doesn't take longer BECAUSE it doesn't always just come apart right, so you're being charged 350 and lets say it takes the mechanic 7 hours, he now gets paid his salary and the shop makes 175, of which the shop pays for the insurance, tools and equipment and rent on the building and taxes and the withholding tax....
No problems the shop makes 200, of which they don't see the entire 200. . .

So where is the college education coming from.....



Now the other thing i want to address and then im done.... end of story with this...

How many diffs have you guys worked on and had pull in and they sound like they just need a bearing ? customer asks you and you tell them sounds like it's this and that but i won''t know exactly till its apart and i can SEE, so you try and give them a ball park and tell them if it's just a broken spider ? or the ring and pin are bad ? or bearings you're looking at 400, or 700.... or whatever

Then you take it apart and find out the bearing imploded and wrecked the gears, ooops there goes that price thrown out earlier at $400, we just jumped another 250 or more depending.

You take it apart and find out the spiders broke, and the case cracked. . . .and the gears got caught also.... WELL guess what, lets say it was a limited slip, case atleast $500, gears atleast 220, bearings 100 to 130, with axles bearings another 60 and labor THAT's how it does come to 1200 sometimes...

I had a guy call, tells me his dump truck is making a banging noise when he turns, so in tell him stop moving it at all and lets stop you from causing more damage, so i ask him 4x or 2x, says 4x, do the axles bolt in from the hub, yes, ok unbolt them and take them out and pull the driveshaft and drive the truck here on 4x, he says ok, whats it gonna run, i said if it's just the spiders and its aam 10.5 or 11 it could be around $500...

It gets here and guess what, he drove it for miles before he called and wrecked the gears, and carrier and it was a limited slip and he put a hole in the housing, none of this was seen till it was apart...
The big AAM diffs are anything but cheap and the limited slips aren't cheap either...

So his $500 went to $1400 for all the internals and bearings and fixing the hold in the housing and his 1st words, "you said around $500" i did if it was spiders only, you wrecked everything including the housing..

The price doesn't jump because I want it to. . .


I had a guy pull in and i woulda swore it was a few teeth off the ring gear, was a D-80, pulled the axles popped the cover, removed the main caps . . . . . AND EVERYTHING fell out, carrier in 2 pieces, all kinds of smashed and ground up bearings and spiders and cross bar.... it didn't sound any worse than it was missing 3 teeth. . .

More than 70% of my customers want a price before i touch it, and none want to pay the $50 inspection fee that gives them a price to the penny.

Keep that in mind

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The mechanic will charge whatever he feels he can suck outta you. I'd go elsewhere,$900 is a rippoff in anyones book's. You shouldnt have to pay for your mechanics daughter's colledge education.

Oh yeah, badmouth mechanics. Classy. We go strictly by the Motor Alldata labor guide. Usually, when we add up all the parts it falls between 800-1200 dollars. We won't touch one without doing every bearing in the housing and on the carrier. We also give a 12 month 12K mile warranty. You priced all the bearings and shims lately, Paul? Maybe you should before insulting mechanics next time.
 
Been ripped off by enogh mech s to know what Im talking about. AFTER ALL i SPENT $2500 GETTING MY VANS AC FIXED AND GOT NOTHING.THE AC IS STILL BUSTED,THE MECH HAS MY MONEY AND i HAVE FIRETRUCK ALL.
 
If this is a professional driveline shop then that's probably an appropriate estimate. I had a Dana rear rebuilt from stem to stern and it ran me 1200.00, and that was 10 years ago.

Alternatively you can pull it and do it yourself, but as said it requires special tools and the knowledge to do it.

I rebuilt my 8 3/4 with all new parts and it cost me 600 bucks with me doing the r&r, this included a used clutch type suregrip.


Are they also including seals and bearings?
 
Labor alone should be 200 or less. I enjoy having different carriers set up just for the enjoyment of having the gears that are needed. The fact is everyone needs more than 1 carrier..
 
I dropped off an 8-1/4" rear end at a local mechanic's home shop and he installed:
-3.55 Richmond gears
-Auburn cone limited slip diff
-New Axle bearings and seals

Haven't driven the car yet, but he only charged $170 about two years ago. It's worth asking around at car shows to see who has the tools and capabilities.

That being said, hopefully my gears don't whine...
 
Labor alone should be 200 or less. I enjoy having different carriers set up just for the enjoyment of having the gears that are needed. The fact is everyone needs more than 1 carrier..

Maybe back in the 60s. Labor rates around here are at or over 100 an hour. Most of our differential jobs list between 3-5 hours labor. Do the math.....21st century style.
 
Been ripped off by enogh mech s to know what Im talking about. AFTER ALL i SPENT $2500 GETTING MY VANS AC FIXED AND GOT NOTHING.THE ******* AC IS STILL BUSTED,THE MECH HAS MY MONEY AND i HAVE FIRETRUCK ALL.

Nice language there, Paul. So you've been ripped of a lot? You know after once or twice, I would think you'd learn to check references. Sounds like you just like to keep goin back for more. There ARE honest mechanics in the world. What you said would be like me saying something like "all Canadians are crooks". I know first hand that's not true, because I've met some nice ones in person and online. You being one of them. So settle down how bout it? Nobody used that language towards you friend.
 
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