CAR SHOW Ebody Jerks turn their noses up

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I don't begrudge the guys who buy a done car. If I had the money to buy whatever car I wanted, I would certainly go out and buy it. But I don't, so I do my best to work on my car with some professional help thrown in. I try to make a point of being friendly to everyone that wants to talk about my car, their car or whatever. I even let people open the door and get inside my Dart despite spending way more than I ever should have to build it.
 
Is it OK If I post something on here.? I mean I don't go to car shows and get into pi$$ING contest with people about who knows what and who doesn't about their cars. I didn't build my engine but I know what's in it. I didn't paint my car. I did help with the grinding and sanding and putting it back together after the paint job. But I did work a crap load of long hrs and OT to pay for parts, engine build, paint and labor. If it came down to me spending time working on car or spend time with my mom in nursing home. I spent time with my mom and taking care of her. So guess what? I paid acouple of guys to work on my car cause I couldn't fit it in. Does that mean I'm not an enthusiasts and do not fit in this website? Not that I really care. My car is a 67 Barracuda and you know what ? Myself and others that know me will call it a Cuda or Barracuda. Nobody gives a crap either.
 
1969VADart said:
I don't begrudge the guys who buy a done car. If I had the money to buy whatever car I wanted, I would certainly go out and buy it. But I don't, so I do my best to work on my car with some professional help thrown in. I try to make a point of being friendly to everyone that wants to talk about my car, their car or whatever. I even let people open the door and get inside my Dart despite spending way more than I ever should have to build it.
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Best post I've read on this page. My thoughts exactly.
 
Headers....... real car people build them. First question I ALWAYS ask is if they built their own headers or "bought" them built. They strut like a peacock with their 12.30 E.T., when all they did was write a big fat 1000 dollar check to TTI. I mean, they brag about their 425 hp 408 stroker, when all they did was buy a set of 650 ceramic coated Doug's. At least I KNOW what's in those headers. I understand the purpose of every bend, on how it helps with the scavenge effect.
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Everyone is in the same river, same canoe, just paddling with a different oar. So, we compare oars... :D
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Built, not bought. I think it is the fun part of this hobby. Anyone can write a check, but they learn absolutely nothing from it.
 
1969VADart said:
I don't begrudge the guys who buy a done car. If I had the money to buy whatever car I wanted, I would certainly go out and buy it. But I don't, so I do my best to work on my car with some professional help thrown in. I try to make a point of being friendly to everyone that wants to talk about my car, their car or whatever. I even let people open the door and get inside my Dart despite spending way more than I ever should have to build it.
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I have done both, resurrected a barn find and bought a done car. I enjoy them both but I will say I am a bit disconnected with the purchased car. Car shows and the people are often disappointing. I enjoy the cruises much more.
 
Mopar-Man said:
No! Have you seen my welds? LOL. They are custom though and not store bought.
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:poke: just check'n, you said built, not bought. My point is, we all "buy" built. If a person orders one part, or makes one trip to the machine shop, then a % of the build is bought. some just tighten a few more bolts than others....
(P.S. - I know the point, no need to explain :) )
 
318willrun said:
:poke: just check'n, you said built, not bought. My point is, we all "buy" built. If a person orders one part, or makes one trip to the machine shop, then a % of the build is bought. some just tighten a few more bolts than others....
(P.S. - I know the point, no need to explain :) )
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I hear ya. But I think there is a difference between fabrication and building a car.
 
I have nothing against the guy that buys his car or pays to have some or all of it done for him. We can't all do everything, or at least do it well. I think the original point of the thread was that some guys who have the ability to write a big check, do not appreciate what it takes to build a car.
 
zkx14 said:
I have nothing against the guy that buys his car or pays to have some or all of it done for him. We can't all do everything, or at least do it well. I think the original point of the thread was that some guys who have the ability to write a big check, do not appreciate what it takes to build a car.
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Especially the non-Mopar guys that could care less about the car and no passion for the brand. They bought it because they could.
 
I enjoy car shows most of the time. Currently the only mopar I have in running condition is my Bracket. It is far from a show car. I am lucky enough to live in a small town where I can drive my open header unregistered race car with slicks down the street. I get to take the car out of the garage and that is what i enjoy. Most every one I talk to are friendly from the check writers to the rat rod lifestyle guys. The worst experience I ever had was with a fellow mopar guy.
I had traded bought and sold cars and hung out with this guy at local cruise nights back in the 90s. At one point I didn't have a car that was in running condition and kind of had other interest. I was and still am into 4x4 trails and Jeeps. I showed up to the cruise night to look at the cars with my wife and saw my old mopar buddy. I was friendly and introduced my wife and he asked what I was driving. I pointed to mg wrangler. He didn't say a word. He just turned his back and walked away. I never talked to him again.
 
I think its a different world to those who NEVER experienced the rewards of the littlest repair/ project on a car, any car. To each his own, but this hands/mind on hobby of ours I believe has to be in the blood and or taught over generation(s)to fully understand.
 
mycuda said:
I think its a different world to those who NEVER experienced the rewards of the littlest repair/ project on a car, any car. To each his own, but this hands/mind on hobby of ours I believe has to be in the blood and or taught over generation(s)to fully understand.
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I agree fully, there is nothing like understanding the car. It's just I know some folks that love older cars as much as any of us, but they can't change a fuel filter without messing something up... LOL. I know, but it's true. I think it's ok they buy done, but I don't think it's ok if they buy then "snob" others with less money trying to "work" their car towards the finish product.
 
Mopar-Man said:
Built, not bought. I think it is the fun part of this hobby. Anyone can write a check, but they learn absolutely nothing from it.
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You'd be surprised.

Not everyone is like those mentioned in the OP.

I've known several people who have bought a car and are heavily invested in knowing everything they can about it.

I know of guys who were working ungodly amount of hours to be able to afford it and just couldn't make the investment in time to build one.

Guys who's jobs took them away from home for months at a time who weren't home enough to build one.

Then you get down to threads like this.

How many of you chime into threads where someone ships out a car for body work and say, "it's looking good!" instead of calling out the owner of the thread for buying others' skills and time?

Dave Moore has a thread on here with his survivor. Many here who are chiming in about building his car and looking down his nose about writing the check are chiming in on Dave's thread about how awesome that survivor is, while never telling Dave that he's nothing more than a "check writer."

Something to think about...

It takes all types to fill out the hobby. Tim Wellborn has a nice museum, open to the public for all to admire the history. A lot of those cars were "bought."

Some do certain things that they feel comfortable doing. Some may build the body and send out the engine or buy a crate engine. Some may do all the mechanical and send out the body work. How many here do their own upholstery?

Then take into account that a lot of folks see the investment in tools and equipment and realize that for the money they could buy a car? And, for a lot of DIY'ers, those tools will only be used once.

I have as much invested in tools and equipment that I could have bought a nice turnkey. Of course, I've made my career off those tools, but still...

It takes all kinds to keep the hobby going. I take a lot of pride in building the skills I have over a lifetime of doing it. That's me, though.

Some guys take pride in saving a lifetime to buy or have someone else build their dreams.

As evidenced from this thread, there's enough noses in the air from both sides of the aisle.
 
so i bought my car as a slant six
then i bought a junkyard 360, inspected it, cleaned it, painted it, slapped in a new cam, lifters intake and carb and installed the whole deal in my car myself (with a little help from some forum members)

when that engine spun a rod a few months later i figured i wasnt gonna risk that a second time, and paid someone to rebuild it
(of course, at this time i had allready pulled the engine, partly disassembled it and and diagnosed it, and i did reinstall the rebuild engine myself)

so what category would that put me in?
 
I figure the bottom line here is what is the "soul" of the car guy??
makes no difference to me if he bought his ride done, built it all, part of it, BUT if he has soul, he loves the car and the hobby. IF he has soul and turns out to be an asshole, I can deal with that! ha. yes I personally connect with the guy that does or attempts to do all the work he is capable of doing, has the time to do, and tools and place to work on it. I have NO problem with the guy that write the check for it ALL, as long as he has soul and loves the car.
I have built many, but I have never rebuilt it ALL. I don't feel comfortable or capable of doing everything. I have bought done cars or pretty much done. worst part there is coming behind someone else that did not do something "right" or to suit me. example: the guy buys a grade 3 hardware bolt and snaps it off, leaving the mess to the "next" guy! ha
I love working on my cars and fixing something. no matter how small it makes me feel good and good about myself. self satisfaction.

let face it, our hobby is very diversified. whether we are talking of the model of mopar we tend to gravitate toward. or even what company built it! whether we are doing the work ourselves, paying for parts of it, maybe paying for all of it, ..... the finances that are available to us, the resources we have in terms of knowledge, tools, shelter, time..... desire that comes and goes maybe.....racing, shows, cruises, swaps,....... we are a very diversified group but if we love the cars, the hobby, and fellow hobbiest with this soul, all is well??????
 
318willrun said:
Headers....... real car people build them. First question I ALWAYS ask is if they built their own headers or "bought" them built. They strut like a peacock with their 12.30 E.T., when all they did was write a big fat 1000 dollar check to TTI. I mean, they brag about their 425 hp 408 stroker, when all they did was buy a set of 650 ceramic coated Doug's. At least I KNOW what's in those headers. I understand the purpose of every bend, on how it helps with the scavenge effect.
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Everyone is in the same river, same canoe, just paddling with a different oar. So, we compare oars...
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When you extract your iron ore to build your headers what % of carbon do you prefer to ensure they are easily malleable but withstand the heat? I assume you aren't writing a check for tubing....
 
GRANCUDA said:
When you extract your iron ore to build your headers what % of carbon do you prefer to ensure they are easily malleable but withstand the heat? I assume you aren't writing a check for tubing....
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LOL.... :thumbsup:
 
Id have to go with Ramenth on this one. I am building my own car. I have welding, painting, and autobody skills, i can rebuild my own engine, and upholster the seats, redo wiring, etc. However i cannot stitch the upholstery, so i am buying ready made covers from legendary and installing them myself, i had somebody rebuild my center chunk. And somebody will have to do the machinework on my 360 before i can assemble it. I dunno, does this make me less of an enthusiast because i had to farm out a few things? Every one of us has.
 
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Unless there is something else entertaining at a car show .. ex: swap meet .. drag race etc.... i do not attend ... nothing more than a bunch of "LOOK at what i have ".. people .. and like most of you said .. KNOW NOTHING ...........
 
Guys like that "E body Man" can be a positive thing. You'll remember that car show forever and have a good belly laugh because of that UBAR DINK...Only thing is it's bad for Mopar because 99.9% of us are the coolest! :thumbsup:
 
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