1964 426 wedge

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Well, what? Seems to have pretty much stock 452 heads, it's no different than a warmed up 440. Whether "it's worth that" remains to be seen. Certainly not a "collector's item" so to say
 
67Dart273 said:
Well, what? Seems to have pretty much stock 452 heads, it's no different than a warmed up 440. Whether "it's worth that" remains to be seen. Certainly not a "collector's item" so to say
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So what is your actual question? Last I checked this is not an opinion forum. If it is regarding the heads you are correct they would have been machined, fit with larger intake and exhaust valves, three angle valve job, new springs and seats but would not have been ported.
 
Dartn440 said:
So what is your actual question? Last I checked this is not an opinion forum. .
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Yeh, it kinda IS. You said "they are not yours." I was under the impression you were "saying" this was somehow unique and rare. Well it IS a 64 426 block I guess but it's certainly not an original, nor a max, so it's not really a collectible, right? It IS a built engine, and what I'm saying is "maybe it's worth that" but what I'm suggesting / asking is, "why is it special?" So I guess that IS my question................

Or are you actually selling this? I was under the impression you found it for sale and were just reposting it, which happens a lot around here......................
 
I am not personally selling this. It is at the shop for sale. If I am not mistaken it would have been a Stage III, but the only thing that could be salvaged was the the internals. I can't tell you otherwise. Quality machine work and drop in ready for someone's 1964. I does not have the high compression pistons nor the higher lift cam found in the beefed up originals.
 
I didn't see any mention of a warranty, maybe I missed it. If there's a warranty offered, it could seem like a good deal. However, I am 100% certain that my 10K dollar engine build could include aluminum heads. For someone who doesn't do any of their own work, it could be a nice deal, though. I don't think the cubic inch displacement is really important here, as the ad does speak of other engines. It just "happens" to be a 426.
 
My friend has a set of '63 Max wedge heads and a matching max wedge cross ram that would look great on that motor! He also has a 426 block. But I think it might just be a normal block. Not an HP of sorts.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I didn't see any mention of a warranty, maybe I missed it. If there's a warranty offered, it could seem like a good deal. However, I am 100% certain that my 10K dollar engine build could include aluminum heads. For someone who doesn't do any of their own work, it could be a nice deal, though. I don't think the cubic inch displacement is really important here, as the ad does speak of other engines. It just "happens" to be a 426.
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He may not have put the warranty in the eBay ad but he does. He has over 1900 eBay transactions in the positive. You are right, for someone not doing their own work it is just fine. It would have been nice to have had the rest of the max wedge items with it when he picked it up as a core, but that is the way it is sometimes. Last 440 I sold had an Edelbrock intake and carb but the buyer wanted six pack so we made a deal without my top end, the buyer mailed his, he installed it, tuned it, shot the video, and shipped the motor.
 
Dartn440 said:
I am not personally selling this. It is at the shop for sale. If I am not mistaken it would have been a Stage III, but the only thing that could be salvaged was the the internals. I can't tell you otherwise. Quality machine work and drop in ready for someone's 1964. I does not have the high compression pistons nor the higher lift cam found in the beefed up originals.
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Only way for this to be confirmed as a true stage 3/max wedge block is to check the pad by the distributor. It must have the AAQA stamped into it. Otherwise, it's not a stage 3/max wedge block.

1994redram said:
My friend has a set of '63 Max wedge heads and a matching max wedge cross ram that would look great on that motor! He also has a 426 block. But I think it might just be a normal block. Not an HP of sorts.
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Post a pic of the casting number and distributor pad.

Dartn440 said:
He may not have put the warranty in the eBay ad but he does. He has over 1900 eBay transactions in the positive. You are right, for someone not doing their own work it is just fine. It would have been nice to have had the rest of the max wedge items with it when he picked it up as a core, but that is the way it is sometimes. Last 440 I sold had an Edelbrock intake and carb but the buyer wanted six pack so we made a deal without my top end, the buyer mailed his, he installed it, tuned it, shot the video, and shipped the motor.
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Like I said above, it HAS to have the AAQA stamped on the pad or it's not a max wedge block. Period. All max wedges had AAQA stamped on them. If it does not, it's simply a block produced during that one but the block wasn't chosen to be used as a max wedge. I've seen several of these blocks come up and people google casting number, see that casting number comes back to being used in 1962-1964 max wedge blocks but they miss that it was also used in standard wedges.
 
Who gives a FIG if it's a MAX WEDGE block? Nowhere in the ad does the seller say it is, or even imply it. He says 426 WEDGE and that's EXACTLY what it is. It's not a 426 HEMI, is it? It's a WEDGE. He is 100% correct. Nowhere in the ad is he trying to pass it off as something it's not.

Copy and paste where the ad says MAX WEDGE. You cannot, because it doesn't. Stop lookin for trouble where there is none.
 
Thanks. It looks like he is a pretty reputable shop up that way and builds a nice product. Not many decent shops left around anymore.


Dartn440 said:
He may not have put the warranty in the eBay ad but he does. He has over 1900 eBay transactions in the positive. You are right, for someone not doing their own work it is just fine. It would have been nice to have had the rest of the max wedge items with it when he picked it up as a core, but that is the way it is sometimes. Last 440 I sold had an Edelbrock intake and carb but the buyer wanted six pack so we made a deal without my top end, the buyer mailed his, he installed it, tuned it, shot the video, and shipped the motor.
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RustyRatRod said:
Who gives a FIG if it's a MAX WEDGE block? Nowhere in the ad does the seller say it is, or even imply it. He says 426 WEDGE and that's EXACTLY what it is. It's not a 426 HEMI, is it? It's a WEDGE. He is 100% correct. Nowhere in the ad is he trying to pass it off as something it's not.

Copy and paste where the ad says MAX WEDGE. You cannot, because it doesn't. Stop lookin for trouble where there is none.
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Actually I can. See the below quotes.


Dartn440 said:
If I am not mistaken it would have been a Stage III
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Dartn440 said:
It would have been nice to have had the rest of the max wedge items with it when he picked it up as a core
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To me, it reads like its being implied that it was a max wedge engine.


Also, the ad itself states that it is a "special block".
 
RustyRatRod said:
Who gives a FIG if it's a MAX WEDGE block? Nowhere in the ad does the seller say it is, or even imply it. He says 426 WEDGE and that's EXACTLY what it is. It's not a 426 HEMI, is it? It's a WEDGE. He is 100% correct. Nowhere in the ad is he trying to pass it off as something it's not.

Copy and paste where the ad says MAX WEDGE. You cannot, because it doesn't. Stop lookin for trouble where there is none.
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Further more from the ad:

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I can look at the pad. If a prospective buyer has questions they can call the shop. I was not implying that it was a max wedge only that the casting number indicates what it does. No one is trying to pass this off as anything. It is a 426 wedge that is ready to drop into the bay of someone's ride. Yes the owner says it is special because he has building Mopars a very long time and rarely comes across them.
 
Dartn440 said:
I can look at the pad. If a prospective buyer has questions they can call the shop. I was not implying that it was a max wedge only that the casting number indicates what it does. No one is trying to pass this off as anything. It is a 426 wedge that is ready to drop into the bay of someone's ride. Yes the owner says it is special because he has building Mopars a very long time and rarely comes across them.
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I gotcha. I just have a thing for max wedges and if it's truely a max wedge block, that's significant enough to get me to look deeper at it. I've got an original 413 max wedge block, complete with the notches, AAQA and the casting number. But it's missing the top end sadly.
 
Dartn440 said:
Some reading for fun...

Stage I, Stage II, Stage III Max Wedge

I am still not endorsing this as anything but a wedge....gets confusing in 1964 to me.
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It does. 64 is the weird year. Once they introduced the Hemi , the max wedge died rather instantly. So in a budget move, they took some of the 426 Max wedge blocks that were already cast and simply used them in standard 426 wedges. They did the same to the 413 max wedge blocks when the 426 max wedge came out. That's why it's important to verify it has both the correct block casting and the AAQA. Some max wedge blocks also got an S stamped but not all. However all Max Wedge blocks got the AAQA stampings.
 
Well my apologies to all. He was looking at the pad and did not want to make a false claim on it. He had never put his hands on enough to know they cast AAQA in the block too. He laughed and told me he saw it. Old School.

So it is safe to say. Max Wedge, Stage III block.
 
dukeboy_318 said:
Further more from the ad:

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That says Wedge+ Max Perf, which means the block could be either or. ONE very small spot and he still does not say it IS a MAX WEDGE. It appears to have the same casting number, but no proof it is a MAX WEDGE and again he says it nowhere in the ad.
 
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