skep419
5.9 Magnum 4 speed afficionado
Looks like I’ve got a couple different issues. The end of the axle spline has been messed up for years. Not sure what I screwed up replacing the axle bearing and seal.
Guess what broke...... Centerforce Dual Friction + slicks
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1WildRT
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Your gonna want new one piece side gears, your current set only drive off the actual gear, not the clutch plate section... The missing spline was all that was transferring power... New axles & one piece side gears...
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Put a spool in it. Then you can find out what breaks next…
I don't have any experience with this setup. Is that the normal amount of spline engagement on the axle that spun?
1WildRT
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That was what would transfer power, there's more spline but it's on the locker side & when the spline fails the locker can't take all the power....
Which is why it was redesigned with one piece side gears... The full spline transfers the power
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Are you saying that the end of the axle that is stripped was messed up before this incident and not a factor?
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Whether he thinks so or not, it's a factor.... It may have had previous damage, but if so it was hanging on by a thread....
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skep419
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skep419
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Correct, happened 15+ years ago and I just swapped out for the single spline side gears.
Looks like the suregrip/powerlock came apart.
I either didn’t install the seal deep enough in the housing or didn’t press the bearing on far enough.
You get 5 gold stars.
I'll pick you a few crusty boogers and send them. lol
skep419
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Yeah, that's kinda the point. lol
With that clutch it will only be a matter of time before it kills the next weakest link in your drive train.
My suggestion is buy a better clutch. Get an aluminum flywheel.
If you don’t want to spend that kind of money then get a clutch tamer.
If you don’t and you start getting bite you’ll kill parts.
Up next, third gear. Especially if you shift flat footed.
skep419
5.9 Magnum 4 speed afficionado
It's 99% street car, pulled the trans because I plan on changing the clutch. If I ever run the slicks again I'll have a clutch tamer.
Ram recommended this one.
* Handle up to 400 hp
* Organic disc facing for smooth engagement with excellent release qualities
Ram recommended this one.
88390HDX – HDX clutch set Chrysler diaphragm replacement 10.5 x 1-23 spline
- 10.5 x 1-23 spline
- Diaphragm replacement
- 8 spring hub
- premium organic facing material
- For applications up to 450 hp
- Includes pressure plate, clutch disc, release bearing, alignment tool
McLeod StreetPro Clutch Kits 75109
* Bolt to stock flywheels* Handle up to 400 hp
* Organic disc facing for smooth engagement with excellent release qualities
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Are you set on a diaphragm type PP?It's 99% street car, pulled the trans because I plan on changing the clutch. If I ever run the slicks again I'll have a clutch tamer.
Ram recommended this one.
88390HDX – HDX clutch set Chrysler diaphragm replacement 10.5 x 1-23 spline
Or this one
- 10.5 x 1-23 spline
- Diaphragm replacement
- 8 spring hub
- premium organic facing material
- For applications up to 450 hp
- Includes pressure plate, clutch disc, release bearing, alignment tool
McLeod StreetPro Clutch Kits 75109
* Bolt to stock flywheels
* Handle up to 400 hp
* Organic disc facing for smooth engagement with excellent release qualities
We stock either of those clutch kids if that's what you decide to do.It's 99% street car, pulled the trans because I plan on changing the clutch. If I ever run the slicks again I'll have a clutch tamer.
Ram recommended this one.
88390HDX – HDX clutch set Chrysler diaphragm replacement 10.5 x 1-23 spline
Or this one
- 10.5 x 1-23 spline
- Diaphragm replacement
- 8 spring hub
- premium organic facing material
- For applications up to 450 hp
- Includes pressure plate, clutch disc, release bearing, alignment tool
McLeod StreetPro Clutch Kits 75109
* Bolt to stock flywheels
* Handle up to 400 hp
* Organic disc facing for smooth engagement with excellent release qualities
skep419
5.9 Magnum 4 speed afficionado
I've never driven a vehicle with a borg beck style 3 finger but I drive the car a lot and would rather not have a harder pedal. I'm kinda kicking myself for installing the 2 step and the slicks.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
Hey Dan, what’s a clutch kid? Like I can order a kid to push the clutch for me?
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
You just need a little controlled slip. A clutch tamer would work great on it.
skep419
5.9 Magnum 4 speed afficionado
The reason I ask, I have three NOS Borg Beck and Long PP's. I am NOT trying to sell you something. Just putting it out there.
The Borg Beck Long PP has a lower pedal pressure than the standard 3 finger Borg and Beck due to its longer fingers. Pedal pressure is somewhere between a diaphragm and Borg and Beck.
I am not a fan of the feel of a diaphragm pp, feels like stepping on a banana peel, to me. I am aware I am not with the majority here. I also didn't find clean dissengagement at higher rpm.
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You probably dont have enough spline engagement either. As in, axles may be to short
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