Crager SS 15x7 front 15x7 rear 68 barracuda.

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I mounted the rear tires myself, then put each wheel/tire on my bubble balancer. It said they were already perfectly balanced. I was kinda doubtful, given previous experience with Cragars dating back quite a few years, but a test drive showed it to be perfectly smooth. I don't know if I just lucked out, or if whoever makes Cragars now does a better job than a couple decades back. I know the chrome is holding up better than some of my old ones did.
 
4spdragtop said:
Any mods to front end? I know that my fronts are VERY close to touching fenders. Looks great BTW!
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Thank you. No mods whatever on my 67. I also have 15x7 SBP Cragars all the way around on my 63 Valiant convertible and my 65 Barracuda. Both cars running 225/60/15 tires. I did have to trim the left front lower fender lip of the Valiant. The trim was so slight that it's not noticeable. Didn't trim anything on the 65 Barracuda. And the 67 has more room front and rear than the earlier As.
 
4mulas said:
I’ve had both.

You will need conical acorn nuts on the front and mag nuts for the rear.

You can likely buy the conical 7/16" thread nuts at any tire shop that sells mags or order online at your vendor of choice..

The rear nuts I might even still have some left from my Cragar’s days too. Is your car all right hand thread or do you still have some left hand thread too?

this whole scenario is kind of a pain in the *** because the hex size for a conical/bulge nut is 3/4" and the hex size for the rear nuts will be 11/16". They look slight different when installed as the rears use a shank style with washer but not really noticeable once everything is installed.

Cragar makes the nuts for the rear and are usually available through summit. Part number for right hand thread is A-09005-4 and the left hand thread nuts part number is A-09004-4. They are both only sold in packs of four so you will have extra’s when you’re done but oh well.

I find the washers on the new stock mag nuts for these wheels kinda soft. Avoid over tightening them as the washer will sorta bend a bit around the nut. The old school washers were nice and thick and rigid.

Check wheel tightness often for the first 1-200 miles especially the rears. Eventually they should settle down and stay tight. The front aren’t as much of a concern but it is always good practice to re-torque lugs on new set ups for the first while.

I do have some bags of new shank nuts left over too. If you let me know what you need (right or left hand thread) I’d sell mine.
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Thank you for the info.. one thing I noticed is on summit racing, the specs for the rear 15x7 cragers states they use conical nuts. Yes im still running LH lugs.

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Darren said:
Thank you for the info.. one thing I noticed is on summit racing, the specs for the rear 15x7 cragers states they use conical nuts. Yes im still running LH lugs.

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That’s what summit says, but Cragar website says otherwise. I believe I have some new LH nuts for that’s till if you’d like me to look let me know

Or you could just wait ans Ee what arrive to be certain then get your nuts?
 
4mulas said:
That’s what summit says, but Cragar website says otherwise. I believe I have some new LH nuts for that’s till if you’d like me to look let me know

Or you could just wait ans Ee what arrive to be certain then get your nuts?
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Ill check out crager website. I'll keep those nuts in mind.. thank you
 

Captain Obvious here. Typing this all out for me and anyone else who cares.
Keep in mind 67-69 Barracuda fender wheel opening is smaller than other a-bodies, specially the front lower section.

In my experience, on my 67 Barracuda, with KH disc brakes, it is best to get a backspace >3 and <4.5.
Yes, offset is part of it, but using just backspace works for this discussion.

Once you have the wheels, time to determine the best, or max, tire size.
There are tools for this, and to select the proper wheel size first, but let's stick with, we already have the wheels ordered.

Imo, the greater the bs, the taller/wider the tire.

I originally had Cragars on the front: 14x6 3.75 bs, 215/70/14

I bought Steelies: 15x6 3.75 bs.

Bigger wheel, same offset, so I used tiresize.com to calculate what 15" tire would be the same size as the 14" tire, which was: 215/65/15

So, the 14" wheel/tire occupied the same exact space as the new 15" wheel/tire, and based on that I knew the 15" would not rub anywhere.

I've also had these Cragars on the front without issue: 14x6 3.25 bs 205/70/14
Smaller backspace, stuck out farther, 'smaller' tire.

Here are wheels that did not fit on the front, both rubbed the UCA:
Cragar: 14x6 4 & 1/16th bs
Steelies: 15X7 with a 4.5 bs

I have a set of sbp, 14x6 with 3" bs, and I'm trying to determine what tire, if any, would fit up front.

Anyone with a 14x6 3" bs wheel up front on a 67-69 Barracuda?
 
Good info Matt, thanks.
matthon said:
Captain Obvious here. Typing this all out for me and anyone else who cares.
Keep in mind 67-69 Barracuda fender wheel opening is smaller than other a-bodies, specially the front lower section.

In my experience, on my 67 Barracuda, with KH disc brakes, it is best to get a backspace >3 and <4.5.
Yes, offset is part of it, but using just backspace works for this discussion.

Once you have the wheels, time to determine the best, or max, tire size.
There are tools for this, and to select the proper wheel size first, but let's stick with, we already have the wheels ordered.

Imo, the greater the bs, the taller/wider the tire.

I originally had Cragars on the front: 14x6 3.75 bs, 215/70/14

I bought Steelies: 15x6 3.75 bs.

Bigger wheel, same offset, so I used tiresize.com to calculate what 15" tire would be the same size as the 14" tire, which was: 215/65/15

So, the 14" wheel/tire occupied the same exact space as the new 15" wheel/tire, and based on that I knew the 15" would not rub anywhere.

I've also had these Cragars on the front without issue: 14x6 3.25 bs 205/70/14
Smaller backspace, stuck out farther, 'smaller' tire.

Here are wheels that did not fit on the front, both rubbed the UCA:
Cragar: 14x6 4 & 1/16th bs
Steelies: 15X7 with a 4.5 bs

I have a set of sbp, 14x6 with 3" bs, and I'm trying to determine what tire, if any, would fit up front.

Anyone with a 14x6 3" bs wheel up front on a 67-69 Barracuda?
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matthon said:
Captain Obvious here. Typing this all out for me and anyone else who cares.
Keep in mind 67-69 Barracuda fender wheel opening is smaller than other a-bodies, specially the front lower section.

In my experience, on my 67 Barracuda, with KH disc brakes, it is best to get a backspace >3 and <4.5.
Yes, offset is part of it, but using just backspace works for this discussion.

Once you have the wheels, time to determine the best, or max, tire size.
There are tools for this, and to select the proper wheel size first, but let's stick with, we already have the wheels ordered.

Imo, the greater the bs, the taller/wider the tire.

I originally had Cragars on the front: 14x6 3.75 bs, 215/70/14

I bought Steelies: 15x6 3.75 bs.

Bigger wheel, same offset, so I used tiresize.com to calculate what 15" tire would be the same size as the 14" tire, which was: 215/65/15

So, the 14" wheel/tire occupied the same exact space as the new 15" wheel/tire, and based on that I knew the 15" would not rub anywhere.

I've also had these Cragars on the front without issue: 14x6 3.25 bs 205/70/14
Smaller backspace, stuck out farther, 'smaller' tire.

Here are wheels that did not fit on the front, both rubbed the UCA:
Cragar: 14x6 4 & 1/16th bs
Steelies: 15X7 with a 4.5 bs

I have a set of sbp, 14x6 with 3" bs, and I'm trying to determine what tire, if any, would fit up front.

Anyone with a 14x6 3" bs wheel up front on a 67-69 Barracuda?
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Thanks for the info Matt.. I contacted summit wheels are on back order, really hoping to have the on car for early August so hoping to get tires ordered. In the past I minitubbed a 68 dart and wanted the max tire in there, I remember measuring like you say.. now I just want tires with plenty room and look good lol..
Ill keep you posted thanks
 
Hey guys, so after some research I contacted Summit and changed my crager wheel order from 15x7 to 15x8 on rear.
So far im planning

Rear - crager 15x8 (4 1/4 back set) x 255 60 15 BF T/A

Front - crager 15x6 (3 3/8 backset) x ?
Im hoping to get a decent tire that will have zero issues with rubbing and turning..

Also my 68 barracuda is completely stock the factory disc front brakes..
He's a current picture with original wheels..
I love the Steelies, just looking for a different look... thanks for any advice on front tires.
Next will be correct lugs and probably have to swap out the Left hand to Right hand. But thinking I might wait until wheels arrive to confirm lug seat configuration..
Thanks

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You can probably run 215/65r15 front. You may have to lengthen the fender brace support bracket

From the looks of it you have ss springs so the 8" rears with 255’s will be fine
 
Im looking at the cooper cobra tires. Seams like 215 65 15 are my only option. I currently have 215 70 14 on original Steelies that I think are 5.5 not sure on BS , but I have no rubbing issues..
 
Check my post above, your front Cragars are identical to the Steelies I have now.
215/65/15 will fit, no room to spare, no need to cut fenders.

I had 15x7 with 4.5 bs on the rear with 255/60/15s. Those tires fit the 7" wheels very well.
I switched to bbp axles and now run 15x8 with 4.5 bs and 275/60/15s.
They fill the wheelwell much better, however, the bbp axle flange is farther out from the bearing by a tiny amount.
But man, those 275s look way more better.

Not sure what axles you have, sbp or bbp.

Imo Cooper Cobras are a great tire.

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matthon said:
Check my post above, your front Cragars are identical to the Steelies I have now.
215/65/15 will fit, no room to spare, no need to cut fenders.

I had 15x7 with 4.5 bs on the rear with 255/60/15s. Those tires fit the 7" wheels very well.
I switched to bbp axles and now run 15x8 with 4.5 bs and 275/60/15s.
They fill the wheelwell much better, however, the bbp axle flange is farther out from the bearing by a tiny amount.
But man, those 275s look way more better.

Not sure what axles you have, sbp or bbp.

Imo Cooper Cobras are a great tire.

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Looks good for sure..
My car is completely stock with factory disc front brakes, so from what I hear that pushes the front wheels out 3/8"?
 
Darren said:
Im looking at the cooper cobra tires. Seams like 215 65 15 are my only option. I currently have 215 70 14 on original Steelies that I think are 5.5 not sure on BS , but I have no rubbing issues..
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The 215’s are one good inch taller than 205/70/14. Plus your rims will be 1/2 wider and the backspace not quite as much as oem. All this pushes it out and with the extr height the bottom fron corner is your concern. By putting the lower front fender brace in the position that pushes the fender out to the maximum on my old duster I had about 3/8" clearance from the tire to the fender with those Cragar’s and that size tire.
Apparently barracudas may even be tighter there. Some people lengthen the rod
 
Darren said:
My car is completely stock with factory disc front brakes
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Ditto on mine, factory Kelsey Hayes small bolt pattern disc brakes.

My front wheels have all the tire that wheel can have on the front of a 67-69 Barracuda, in all driving conditions, no cutting or modifying of anything.
 
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