33IMP
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You're correct about a tall deck 383, but they were only in (if I remember right) 59 and 60. Highly unlikely to be ANY kind of "fresh build" on a tall 383.
1962 383
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33IMP
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Just for info.....
The 1962 ONLY dual quad 383 was the highest ever rated 383, at 343hp.
Stock and super stock killer in its day.
Whether the rating was even remotely accurate, is debatable.
I'd bet the 335hp version is stronger.
The 1962 ONLY dual quad 383 was the highest ever rated 383, at 343hp.
Stock and super stock killer in its day.
Whether the rating was even remotely accurate, is debatable.
I'd bet the 335hp version is stronger.
Lets see the casting numbers in cylinder heads at the outer row of bolts. 1962 high performance B heads have the same casting numbers or heads as the high performance 300J heads.
not even close
My '62 305hp 361 golden commando runs at least as good as any stock 383 I've experienced... I'd dare to guess the high performance 383 from '62 is a fairly stout piece.
the 343 hp 383 had close to 11.1 comp with a 284 deg solid cam, a real screamer
I didn't get the 62 heads. Only a short block.
All the 62's I had were 361 b engines.
There’s nothing wrong with an engine from 62,,,,just as good as any !
Tommy
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My 58 fury was a 350 b engine my 59 was a 383 RB engine and all 62's were 361's b engines, Except for some of the Dart 440's they were 318 poly's unless they had polara trim. I never saw a 383 b in a 62 and I bought many for parts. They were 361's if they were a big block unless they were 413's. You could get a 426 Max in late 62 but it had to be in a Polara or Fury ordered for a sanctioned race team. Only ever saw one in my life time it was a Fury.
At least at the outset of the 62 model year, the top engine option in B bodies was the 361 four barrel. Of course, the 413 max became available late in the year, after non-max 413s became available I believe in the early spring. 383s in 62 B bodies? I've never seen one, either. Not saying they didn't exist, but I've never seen one.
By the way, Oldmanmopar, my parents bought a new 62 Polara 500 convertible in November of 1962 (factory executive car with 3,000 miles, not titled until my folks bought it). Black with a red and white interior. Looked just like yours except for a black top. Motor was a 361 four barrel, automatic and (something I didn't know for many years) 2.76 rear gears, which were the standard gears for that engine/trans combo. Same dealer had a 63 Polara convertible, turquoise with a white top and a 383 2-barrel. Same price. Mom and Dad chose the black 62. Dad liked a black car. If he got a car that wasn't black, it got repainted black some time during his ownership.
My younger brother in the pic below. Car had a 440 in it by then.
By the way, Oldmanmopar, my parents bought a new 62 Polara 500 convertible in November of 1962 (factory executive car with 3,000 miles, not titled until my folks bought it). Black with a red and white interior. Looked just like yours except for a black top. Motor was a 361 four barrel, automatic and (something I didn't know for many years) 2.76 rear gears, which were the standard gears for that engine/trans combo. Same dealer had a 63 Polara convertible, turquoise with a white top and a 383 2-barrel. Same price. Mom and Dad chose the black 62. Dad liked a black car. If he got a car that wasn't black, it got repainted black some time during his ownership.
My younger brother in the pic below. Car had a 440 in it by then.
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Let's recap.. Dude says he got hosed but blames himself for improper investigation.. Seller speaks up and says if there's any issues he will exchange at 0 cost. Buyer says no need then continues to complain. Everyone's got different dealings/opinions I'll say this though everything you've said you wanted to buy you always had this outlandish excuse of worlds ending, selling everything. Business closing ect.. Last I remember the business you are in was inspections yet you're on here crying about your own lack thereof? $400 bucks barely gets a small block core anymore, and the seller offered to help, so what is it exactly you are looking for?
What are your plans for the engine? Going to flip it?
It could be a 63 . Its a
Thing is, I didn't want to involve the seller. I was pissed and bitchin. Im unfamiliar with early blocks and thought there was differences in cranks, etc.
You want to blast me, pm me, you had no info to help so , no need to chat in here imo.
You feel better now?
Thing is, I didn't want to involve the seller. I was pissed and bitchin. Im unfamiliar with early blocks and thought there was differences in cranks, etc.
You want to blast me, pm me, you had no info to help so , no need to chat in here imo.
Difference is If I felt hosed as you say here, I would hash it out with seller not go on a tantrum.
Said seller offered to make it right even though he knew of no issue and you still denied it. Hell, half of us here have no dog in the fight, but we are all bright enough to know that if there's an issue you address it with the party first, you skipped that step. So again what is your goal here?
Said seller offered to make it right even though he knew of no issue and you still denied it. Hell, half of us here have no dog in the fight, but we are all bright enough to know that if there's an issue you address it with the party first, you skipped that step. So again what is your goal here?
Just curious, what years were affected by the "shallow / undersized" gearbox pilot hole in the crank? I once had a 440 bored because it was both undersized AND shallow, and I for some reason did not want to hack off the pilot shaft
Years ago I thought I had paid too much for that complete 413 max wedge engine,,, it later found out it was just a 413!!! and I assumed it to be a 426!!!!!! I assumed I got hosed!!!! But that was back in 1989 and $900 was a LOT of money back then!!!! and I assumed a lot!!!! 
Often, automatic cranks were not finish machined for a pilot bushing. This is an issue for all years. Easy to machine the crank for a pilot bushing if it's out of the car. Otherwise, no. You can use a Dakota pilot bearing on such a crank, but as you found out, you have to cut off the end of the pilot shaft because the hole is not only too small for the bushing, but too short for the pilot shaft..
Small blocks had a smaller torque converter register through 67 (or so??). And pre-62 cranks had an extended flange that the torque converter bolted directly to. These are different issues.
A 1962 383 is a very nice engine to have. I like the closed chamber heads. They are 10:1 compression. Way better than a 1968-1971 383 2 bbl engine.
The crank is just fine. You may be confusing the 1961 and older cranks for a cast iron torqueflight, a different crank flange is on them and a 727 will not bolt up.
A 4 bolt valve cover will seal just fine, I have 3 cars with them and no leaks. They used them from 1958 thrum mid year 1963.
Yes the 6 bolts covers are more reliable for the general public that doesn't maintain their car, and daily drive it. So they went to 6 bolt.
The crank is just fine. You may be confusing the 1961 and older cranks for a cast iron torqueflight, a different crank flange is on them and a 727 will not bolt up.
A 4 bolt valve cover will seal just fine, I have 3 cars with them and no leaks. They used them from 1958 thrum mid year 1963.
Yes the 6 bolts covers are more reliable for the general public that doesn't maintain their car, and daily drive it. So they went to 6 bolt.
Yes, thats what my initial concern was. I wasn't sure of the crank.
Thank you for informing us.
Thank you for informing us.
The 383 4 Barrel was a midyear addition as my elderly
mind recalls.
I had a 343HP 62 Dodge Wagon for a while that was called the
"Orange Crate" that I bought from the Foley Brothers and
it held the F/SA National Record.
A lot of you guys would be surprised to know there was never
a 343HP Dual Quad Solid Lifter combination ever available from
Mopar.
It was a Make Believe car or what we used to call a "paper car".
Mopar got together with George at Clay Smith Cams and they together dreamed
up an engine with his Solid Camshaft that was the biggest that would
fit without crashing the valves into the pistons. It incorporated the heads
of a Chrysler 300 with 208 and 175 valves and a small combustion chambers.
Later the head superseded into the 67 915HP replacement heads "according"
to Chrysler.
I have several friends that race these even today in Stock Eliminator and re
well into the 10 Second range @ well over 120MPH.
The later 383s rated as high as 335 HP are nowhere near the power of the 62
and the cars are heavier. If you run mid 11 Seconds with one of those you
are doing well. I have tested and raced them both over the years.
I am sure I have bored everyone by now.
mind recalls.
I had a 343HP 62 Dodge Wagon for a while that was called the
"Orange Crate" that I bought from the Foley Brothers and
it held the F/SA National Record.
A lot of you guys would be surprised to know there was never
a 343HP Dual Quad Solid Lifter combination ever available from
Mopar.
It was a Make Believe car or what we used to call a "paper car".
Mopar got together with George at Clay Smith Cams and they together dreamed
up an engine with his Solid Camshaft that was the biggest that would
fit without crashing the valves into the pistons. It incorporated the heads
of a Chrysler 300 with 208 and 175 valves and a small combustion chambers.
Later the head superseded into the 67 915HP replacement heads "according"
to Chrysler.
I have several friends that race these even today in Stock Eliminator and re
well into the 10 Second range @ well over 120MPH.
The later 383s rated as high as 335 HP are nowhere near the power of the 62
and the cars are heavier. If you run mid 11 Seconds with one of those you
are doing well. I have tested and raced them both over the years.
I am sure I have bored everyone by now.
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My younger brother in my 1971 picture above (#36) will be 60 years old in December. Some time in the mid-70s, Dad picked up a 4-speed and 3.23 sure grip rear from a Road Runner and asked me to put them in for him. So I did. Tried using the Road Runner clutch pedals at first, but then got the clutch/brake pedals from a junkyard 62 Dodge with a three on the tree, and got it all sorted out. The Road Runner 23 spline 4-speed was later replaced with a Hemi/440 18 spline 4-speed. Not sure if my brother still has this car, as we haven't spoken in years.
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Nope. I'm lovin it. I'm sure I could sit and play checkers with you and chew the fat all day.
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