SixPaksRule
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please post the mcg article rather than try to interpret what was written
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Jarlaxle
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I suggest selling them for whatever you can get and going with either a Tremec or a 4-speed.
Cliff Ramsdell
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You know, we have people who have bought these and had problems, such as the OP, we have people who have bought these and never installed them, I have a friend here in Connecticut with a new in the crate one too, but the one thing I have never seen posted is from those that had a good experience. Is that to say every single one is a problem child??
Just wondering,
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Just wondering,
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I would say, no.
Last count I have, there were 2 within this thread with no issues to date, and 2 who have yet to install, not counting your friend.
At the end of the year I spent dealing with this issue, GFI informed me there were 12 defective trans built, 9 in one month, with the same exact issue.
There were also multiple trans damaged during shipping, including mine when they shipped it back one of those times.
Once again, defective trans are an issue, however the lack of accountability and communication are much larger issues.
Buyers should not hear it was discontinued from this thread, and it being discontinued speaks volumes, no communication, to buyers specifically, speaks louder.
Cliff Ramsdell
I'm just a guy.
This gives me a bit of context, how many A-855’s were built over the production period and how many were sold I wonder. They built them for awhile and were always on back order.
As for your ordeal, I understand completely where your coming from in regards to how your transmission was handled.
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Why are there problems with the 855?? Trick question it is.
The manufacturing of gears is not simple, it requires a series of checks and balances to ensure all the parts work together no matter when the part was made. Dimensional metrology comes to mind along with a master gear set. All this costs money and requires precision metrology equipment $$$$$ to measure the complex parts. Is there a master gear set? Due to the problems I highly doubt the components are correctly manufactured/checked for the correct dimesions or a master gear set exisits. The big 3 never had to install a trans in a car to see if it works...
New transmissions that make noise, won't shift/go into gear - produces a lot of metal in the gear oil. I had problems within 50 miles with 2 new 4sp aluminum overdrives - the first one locked up within 50 miles and the car had to be towed from a bad place- the second one - had 4th gear noise that from mile zero took a while 500-1000 miles or so to go away which was quite annoying considering the money spent. I changed the trans lube on a regular basis until the noise stopped. I was told that is normal....
Metrology is the scientific study of measurement
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The manufacturing of gears is not simple, it requires a series of checks and balances to ensure all the parts work together no matter when the part was made. Dimensional metrology comes to mind along with a master gear set. All this costs money and requires precision metrology equipment $$$$$ to measure the complex parts. Is there a master gear set? Due to the problems I highly doubt the components are correctly manufactured/checked for the correct dimesions or a master gear set exisits. The big 3 never had to install a trans in a car to see if it works...
New transmissions that make noise, won't shift/go into gear - produces a lot of metal in the gear oil. I had problems within 50 miles with 2 new 4sp aluminum overdrives - the first one locked up within 50 miles and the car had to be towed from a bad place- the second one - had 4th gear noise that from mile zero took a while 500-1000 miles or so to go away which was quite annoying considering the money spent. I changed the trans lube on a regular basis until the noise stopped. I was told that is normal....
Metrology is the scientific study of measurement
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I posted the answer to this many pages back:
GFI states they have built 300 to date, unfortunately they are full of crap on a regular basis.
Our Story
As I did then, I highly doubt that number.
Thing is, the link above to "Our Story" does not work anymore, and the base home link, https://5speedmuscle.com/ does not work either, (which I had saved previously, so I know both worked).
I know they did other brands, searched the internet unable to find a website for GFI (Garrett Fuss Inc., nothing).
It appears they scrubbed the web of any link, a web link or connection to, the A855.
1 final eff our customers.
340sFastback
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So if someone has an 855 and it has an issue then what? No more 855 parts?
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Reminded that GFI also builds the Hemi 4 speed overdrive gear set for Passon Performance.
Jarlaxle
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Probably not.
340sFastback
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If thats the case might wanna buy from Brewers instead.
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Someone said to me it's like talking to a child of alcohol/drug addicted parents.
They'll defend them no matter what they do or however low they go.
They'll defend them no matter what they do or however low they go.
harrisonm
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I would sell it! There is bound to be someone who will pay you what you paid. With all the trouble people have had (so much that they quit making them), I would not even try. Maybe Ebay, Facebook Marketplace or Craig's List.
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Just some extremely well documented year long thread that hopefully saved some people a great deal of time, money, frustration, and bs.
lemondana
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Sell it on Moparts, they will buy it!
I’m hard headed and foolish. But I’ll try it first since I have it.
Just get a Richmond (Doug Nash) 5 or 6 speed and be done with it. They've been building them over 50 years.
gg70rr6pack
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I've had three of these units... the first(early production) I had the infamous pop out problems.... Seth and GFI swapped me units, and the second unit was just fine. I have recently bought another one in the latest design batch and I'll have it installed soon. I will say I do check and correct bellhousing runout to make sure that's not an issue on my installs. I have spoken with just Seth just this week and they do have most serviced parts available on the shelf. Not all the units were "junk" as some have stated. There have been a lot of problems, but I feel the trans is worth it to be a direct bolt in in....They will take a beating I assure you. Hope this helps.
Jarlaxle
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Isn't the Richmond 5 speed non-OD?
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Bought from who, more accurately how if their website no longer exists and it is no longer listed on Passon's website?
I did a search looking for info on the A855 for sale, nothing.
I did find where Seth posted on moparts once in December 2024, see below.
I had nothing but positive experiences with Seth, email, phone, and in person.
Personable, intelligent, genuine.
Only negative was when Christine took over and she promptly ghosted me, I could never get Seth to return my calls, and apparently Seth never wondered what happened with my situation.
Reading the December 2024 moparts post, I see more of the same.
Paused production due to costs?
No accountability or acknowledgement of any issues with the actual transmission.
Handling service calls?
What phone#, what website?
1 post on moparts in December 2024, no replies to that thread since, no other posts.
Congratulations!
That's 1 more post than Passon ever made on a Mopar Forum.
I sincerely hope Seth was not the one who actually posted that nothing post of more of the same baloney, then promptly disappeared.
When you talk to Seth again on the mystery phone number, relay a message for me.
Tell him to send me an A855 from the 'latest design batch' and I'll go through the entire process, again.
From unboxing, to make sure it's shipped correctly and the instructions and warranty ppwk exist, installing correctly to ensure proper runout and fluid type, correct break-in time/miles, and test drive the crap out of it.
I'll film every minute of it and post on YouTube for the whole world to see.
More importantly, the world can decide if the A855 and the company that manufactures it is worth a dam.
We replaced that junk A855 with a Mopar A833 OD and did Power Tour this past June. 2,500 miles and no issues whatsoever.
My daughter and I are doing it again next year.
If they're truly confident in the 'latest design batch' this is the moment to step up.
The gauntlet has been thrown.
And, no, I absolutely, unequivocally, am not risking a dime of my own money.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...24/new-passon-performance-5-speed-update.html
Howdy guys, this is Seth Garrett of Garrett Fuss Inc. I just wanted to pop in here quickly to drop off some info, GFI has not gone out of business and the A855 project is not dead. Due to the rapidly increasing cost of manufacturing (steel pricing being the main culprit) we have paused production of the A855. The website going down at the same time was actually due to our website host raising their pricing 10X. Due to this the website was taken offline, I am currently rebuilding it on a new host as an informational page to offer support to our A855 customers. I would also like to note we are still handling service calls and most parts are still in stock for repairs. Also my email seth@5speedmuscle.com was through the old website host and I have no access to it for the time being, if anyone on here sent an email there and got no response recently, I apologize. If email is preferred or pictures need to be sent please use my backup email 5speedmuscle@gmail.com.
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