New Dart, Anyone have one?

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It doesn't have any features that would earn it the name "dart". I consider it to be an offensive vehicle and wouldn't buy one. Now that that rant is over.

My wife drives a 6 speed TDI. Power, handling luxury and 43 mpg average/ 51 mpg highway stock. With a tune and an emissions delete they go better than in MPG and the power is just stupid.
 
moparlover said:
forget all the naysayers/complainers. if they were alive in the early '70's they would have been complaining about the darts back then lol.
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The car I had was a pile of doodoo. Stating facts here, not complaining. Not to mention the HORRIBLE resale value on the damn thing. Why did you trade yours in? Just curious.
 
RustyRatRod said:
To me, the prettiest Dart of all. ^^^^
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Same here.

And I'm an M-body fan.

The Diplomat nameplate wasn't used in Mexico. The Dart nameplate was.

Onto the OP, I don't have one. My sister does. She loves the car for what it is and it was what she was looking for. In her price range, good mileage, plenty of room for her growing grandkids. I believe it's a '13. She's had no issues with it and so far just routine maintenance.
 
BadAss71 said:
The car I had was a pile of doodoo. Stating facts here, not complaining. Not to mention the HORRIBLE resale value on the damn thing. Why did you trade yours in? Just curious.
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i traded my dart with 40k miles because i fell in love with the looks of the '15 chally

went back to get the one i wanted it was gone so i got an all black R/T

my neighbor had a dart nothing but problems. but he got it from a skanky dealer i wont even go there. i'm wondering if they sell blems or something they get some deal on them somewhere.

my dealer is awesome, my dart had no problems. was a great car.

the challenger is great. i love them both but what is a man to do, you have to choose one.
 
As I stated earlier, there was a ton of issue's with the earlier Dart's from the get go. A lot of quality control problems and just plain bad engineering. They came off the truck and went straight to service to be fixed. These things had warranty claims before they had titles. But, they have come a loooooong way since then.
As for the name, my opinion is this, the Dart now is what the Dart then was, a small entry level family car. If they hadn't retired the name in 1976 I would think that several models that we know today by other names would have been "Dart" to include Shadow and Neon. As Shakespeare said "a rose by any other name"
 
My wife has a 2014 we bought new last February it has maybe 4000 miles on it now.
Turbo 6-speed.
We have had no problems yet, nice little economy car.
She loves the little car, we traded a 2011 Caliber, manual trans in on that we bought new, she did not like the size or the fuel mileage of the Caliber.
She says the Dart is like her old 01 Neon in mileage and size.
She is happy, I am happy.
 
Ryan Ward said:
Wouldn't mind a six cyl with manual trans if available. Kind of like a modern 340 swinger, naaaa.
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Want a 6 cylinder 2015 Dart? You'll have to buy a Chrysler 200. Same basic car. Sorry, no manual trans though.
Tried a Dart and a 200, and IMHO they are cramped inside. 200 is a little longer, but boy are these cars narrow!
 
I have a '14 SE that I got in September with 20 miles on it that now has 14,135 miles with no problems or gripes. This is a no option car, does not even have A/C. I got it because I was putting $25 a DAY in gas in my Highlander, liked the look of the Dart and it was cheap- $12,984.00 after the rebate. Comfortable, quick enough and assembled in Belvidere, Illinois, gets over 350 miles to a tank of gas.
 
69_340_GTS said:
Want a 6 cylinder 2015 Dart? You'll have to buy a Chrysler 200. Same basic car. Sorry, no manual trans though.
Tried a Dart and a 200, and IMHO they are cramped inside. 200 is a little longer, but boy are these cars narrow!
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Nothing wrong with a 4 banger if it's done right.

Look at mini cooper or Subaru's WRX STI. The STI is over 300hp.
 
roccodart440 said:
Nothing wrong with a 4 banger if it's done right.

Look at mini cooper or Subaru's WRX STI. The STI is over 300hp.
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Correct. "The STI is over 300hp".

HP ratings on the Dart through 2014 is between 160 and 184. That's NOT "300HP".


Also found this...

What We Like

Stylish appearance
Suspension refinement and body motion control
Shift quality, responsiveness (PowerTech auto transmission only)
Front-seat comfort
Quiet interior

What We Don't Like

Turbo four-cylinder's clumsy dual-clutch transmission
Sluggish gas pedal response
Ride may be too firm for some
Wide B-pillar blocks view when checking blind spot
Steering wheel's limited tilt-down range
 
For 24 grand you can buy 4 used 2004-2008 Acura TL's.

3.2 litre engine with 280hp and 30mpg. Leather, super stereo's, hands free phones, cruise, heated seats, power everything, sunroof, traction control.....the list goes on. Made here in AMERICA in Ohio and designed by American Jon Ikeda.

Luxury and power and bullet proof reliability at a fraction of the price.

Oh yea....they will already have a few miles on them, like 160,000 or so but don't let that fool you. They run and drive like new all the way till they eventually die at around 280-350K miles if they are maintained. Maintained means oil changes every 5000-7000 miles and timing belt/water pump changes every 120K or so.

Sad when they die but don't forget....you still have three more that will last you till your own death.

Oh yea....my buddy confusedcuda has a dart 1.4 turbo. They love it and it's a good looking car..............I digress.
 

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Well you know, most of the "newer" cars are basically junk and have been since the 80's, not meant to effectively last 15 years anyway. I suppose that Dart is just as good as anything in its price range really. Consider it the new Neon.
 
Frankie said:
Correct. "The STI is over 300hp".

HP ratings on the Dart through 2014 is between 160 and 184. That's NOT "300HP".
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That's why I said "if they are done right". Mopar didn't do it right. 160-184 is a sad joke.

my MC40 had a 1.8 pumping out 225 bone stock, run 14's and would outhandle a vette.
 
roccodart440 said:
That's why I said "if they are done right". Mopar didn't do it right. 160-184 is a sad joke.
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I agree. A Fi 4 banger should be making 225-250HP without working hard to do so, at all.

my MC40 had a 1.8 pumping out 225 bone stock, run 14's and would outhandle a vette.
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Quarter mile speeds and trap times for a street car are meaningless. WHat matters is having to power and speed to enter a freeway safely. 0-70 mph time is far more important than drag strip performance.

A car needs to be comfortable for the driver, have ample power to be able to accelerate our of trouble if necessary, it needs to be able to enter a 70MPH freeway safely, even with 4 adults in the car, it needs to stop and handle well in emergency situations, again, with 4 adults, in the car, and it needs to have excellent crash test results.

The OP states that the car is for his wife as a daily driver. Personally it's drag strip performance is the last thing on my mind for a car for my wife. I wouldn't even recommend a manual trans for a daily driver, unless you live way out of town. City driving and manual transmissions are a pain the in the ***, and besides, most people when driving a manual trans get worse MPG's than they would with an auto, simply because they don't drive for "economy" they drive for power.

Think about that realistically.. How many people do you know that drive manual shift cars, actually drive it to get better MPG. That's a fallacy. Most people wind out the gears and dump the clutch pretty quickly. Driving for economy requires slow starts, and shifting at low RPM, and never even approaching a gear max rpm.

On average, with today's automatic transmissions, cars with auto transaxles will yield better MPG than a sick ( because of driving habits) and in most cases, beside normal maintenance you'll have no issues, and you'll never have to change a clutch.
 
RustyRatRod said:
The OP didn't ask for your opinion on Chrysler. He asked if anyone has a new Dart. You don't. So hush.
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Really RRR?! You telling someone to "keep their opinion to there self" HAS to be the most ironic and hypocritical thing I have seen on this forum!

Beginning to think you may have an issue with wanting attention from others. No worries, my 5yr old daughter is the same way...

And regarding the new Darts, I do have some experience with these cars as well as a friend who works for Dodge and bought a 2013 Rallye for his wife. It has since been traded in due to quality issues. Having driven and ridden in several of these cars, I personally feel as they are poor quality for the money spent.
 
vntned said:
Really RRR?! You telling someone to "keep their opinion to there self" HAS to be the most ironic and hypocritical thing I have seen on this forum!

Beginning to think you may have an issue with wanting attention from others. No worries, my 5yr old daughter is the same way...
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Simply trying to point out what the OP asked for.
 
Finally, Frankie got it right. The OP asked those that had experience with the Dart in a daily driver sense how they liked them and many understood and answered. I don't think he was interested in the "Ricky The Roadracer" reports .Can the Dart be better...yes it can but that's another thread. As I stated before, if it could be killed very easy my youngest son would have killed his long ago.
 
I have a 14 Dart- Interior is outstanding(better than a Camaro), 5 star safety rating, 6 speed trans, many features. Mine is really great, and I'm a car guy. It blows away the cars in its class-Carolla, mazda 3 ect.
 
I bought one for my daughter last year for her to go to college in and she has had no isseus at all. It get great gas mileage also
 
Frankie said:
Quarter mile speeds and trap times for a street car are meaningless. WHat matters is having to power and speed to enter a freeway safely. 0-70 mph time is far more important than drag strip performance.

It could be at speed with ease on the on ramps but more fun was not needing to sow for the off ramps!

A car needs to be comfortable for the driver, have ample power to be able to accelerate our of trouble if necessary, it needs to be able to enter a 70MPH freeway safely, even with 4 adults in the car, it needs to stop and handle well in emergency situations, again, with 4 adults, in the car, and it needs to have excellent crash test results.

It was VERY comfortable. Stopped well and exceeded the F150 for crash test safety. It won the safest car in a crash award in the early 2000's.

I wouldn't even recommend a manual trans for a daily driver, unless you live way out of town. City driving and manual transmissions are a pain the in the ***, and besides, most people when driving a manual trans get worse MPG's than they would with an auto, simply because they don't drive for "economy" they drive for power.

My wife WON'T drive an auto. She's getting mixed 43 and hwy 51. I like a stick but they are hard to find in a truck and also jack the cost of the truck up unlike a car.

Think about that realistically.. How many people do you know that drive manual shift cars, actually drive it to get better MPG. That's a fallacy.

Pretty true. The MPG on the auto TDI's is literally 1 MPG less than the stick. 1.. I'd have to agree with you that is very negligible.

On average, with today's automatic transmissions, cars with auto transaxles will yield better MPG than a sick ( because of driving habits) and in most cases, beside normal maintenance you'll have no issues, and you'll never have to change a clutch.
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My auto cummins doesn't do as well as my stick cummins but you are also talking a 6.7l vs. a 5.9hp. Neither have emissions. They are about 3-5mpg difference.
 
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