Adjustable PCV and oil catch devices?

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Here is mine.. Somewhat temp, as I will eventually mount the separator better. Used the inline adapter for the Wagner, and then a brass PEX 1/2 inch fitting to get into the manifold gromet.
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I used a Home Depot air/oil separator on my SRT4. It worked ok, the reservoir is too small though so it requires frequent attention if you're driving all the time. After that one I just couldn't bring myself to use air compressor parts on my car again. It's like using wire nuts or lag bolts, they just don't belong.
 
Yea, just using it to confirm that I need it.. Then I can decide on a more permanent and/or appropriate separator.
 
72bluNblu said:
I used a Home Depot air/oil separator on my SRT4. It worked ok, the reservoir is too small though so it requires frequent attention if you're driving all the time. After that one I just couldn't bring myself to use air compressor parts on my car again. It's like using wire nuts or lag bolts, they just don't belong.
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I compared my home depot separator to my friends Steeda that he has on his GT500 and could find no differences other than I had to make my own bracket,at least mine has brass barb fittings not plastic.So I have to disagree that it doesn't belong.I do agree that it doesn't have enough capacity,it filled up quick.So I run it between the catch can and the intake and only empty it every couple weeks sometimes longer.My catch can is a Ebay special,nothing fancy.Although not name brand all I know is it works.I think I have 40 bucks in it,including the catch can. The Steeda part #at summit is 555-3710.I'd rather spend $12.00 on a separator than $75.00.
 
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Today I ordered my Wagner adjustable PCV valve and and Moroso oil catch separator. I called Wagner's and they were really great help. This will be the cherry on top for my drivetrain install. Will post photos when done.
 
DesertRat said:
Today I ordered my Wagner adjustable PCV valve and and Moroso oil catch separator. I called Wagner's and they were really great help. This will be the cherry on top for my drivetrain install. Will post photos when done.
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The Wagner deal is a father and son thing. Very nice people and they make a damn nice piece for sure.
 
What's the part # on the home Depot one ?
Is there a link showing how to make it work?
Cheap and home made and does the same job AND looks hillbilly doing it ?! I WANT ONE !! :thumbsup:
 
j par said:
What's the part # on the home Depot one ?
Is there a link showing how to make it work?
Cheap and home made and does the same job AND looks hillbilly doing it ?! I WANT ONE !! :thumbsup:
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Go to the M E Wagner website and select "customers cars. Lots of examples of installs with photos. I am using the same parts that Gene Wagner uses on his own cars. The valve can go on either side of the separator but their testing was done with the valve on the inlet of the separator. That is how I will install my setup.
 
j par said:
What's the part # on the home Depot one ?
Is there a link showing how to make it work?
Cheap and home made and does the same job AND looks hillbilly doing it ?! I WANT ONE !! :thumbsup:
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Like we all didn't know you are hooked on hillbilly!

Maybe you can find it in camo! Lol
 
Sure I'll take the bait - maybe you can find a picture of anything you talk about whether it be a car machine part the transmission anything there's no way you can tell me all this high-tech information that you say on a daily basis and you can't figure out how to post a simple picture from your phone onto this website?
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LOOK, even a hillbilly can post a picture :popcorn:
yellow rose said:
Like we all didn't know you are hooked on hillbilly!

Maybe you can find it in camo! Lol
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j par said:
Sure I'll take the bait - maybe you can find a picture of anything you talk about whether it be a car machine part the transmission anything there's no way you can tell me all this high-tech information that you say on a daily basis and you can't figure out how to post a simple picture from your phone onto this website? View attachment 1715021265 LOOK, even a hillbilly can post a picture :popcorn:
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Are you sure you don't live in scappoose?
 
This is my setup, under the msd box. Made by Allstar off of amazon for $65. Big reservoir with a nice petcock drain. It vents very well. In hindsight I would have squeezed it in between my timing cover and alternator. Catches a lot of oil lol. Kind of expensive but cheaper than some name brand ricer stuff. I liked the all aluminum look so it works out. I vented both valve covers because of the turbo.

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j par said:
Sure I'll take the bait - maybe you can find a picture of anything you talk about whether it be a car machine part the transmission anything there's no way you can tell me all this high-tech information that you say on a daily basis and you can't figure out how to post a simple picture from your phone onto this website? View attachment 1715021265 LOOK, even a hillbilly can post a picture :popcorn:
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Post of the year right here !!
 
iw378 said:
Yellow Rose ,, the ball is in your court. Lets see that middle finger.
Lol
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Oh just stop it. If we keep going, jpars head will swell up. That makes his eyes close.

I did consider showing him a pic of my lower middle finger. My wife thought that a bit inappropriate.
 
ummm ok so anyway... lol Can someone explain the real benefits of running an adjustable PCV valve? Like does it improve driveability, gas mileage...? I'm not trying to knock it just don't understand what makes it so great?
 
And here I was thinking I was the only one that has this problem, mainly because I've never seen it discussed before. I've tried a couple of things, extra baffling inside the rocker cover, spacing the PCV valve up from the grommet a bit over an inch and putting a restrictor in the PCV line at the base of the carb, none of which have really fixed the problem. I might try a little smaller restrictor at the card before I get into extra plumbing and oil seperators.
 
Call wagner and he will explain in detail the benefits of the adjustable pcv valve. He is very knowledgeable about crank case ventilation system.
 
MOPEkidD-3 said:
ummm ok so anyway... lol Can someone explain the real benefits of running an adjustable PCV valve? Like does it improve driveability, gas mileage...? I'm not trying to knock it just don't understand what makes it so great?
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I could explain it but it would take too much time and space here. I guess my relevant comment would be that it is particularly applicable to early model engines of all stripes. Engines that we build an modify from the 50's, 60's and 70's are particularly susceptible to the harms that can come from an improperly set up PCV system. Educating yourself about the technology will help you see what we are talking about. I think it could be one of the most overlooked tuning systems in a street/daily driver engine setups. Race engines use a different system. Because my engine is running but not sealed up yet with no miles under load, (rings ect.) it is subject to pressurization of the crankcase and internals. The off the shelf PCV valve cannot manage an engine under these conditions and will pass massive of oil back into the intake vacuum point gunking up your engine. The addition of a properly tuned PCV valve will keep your engine under vacuum and a proper oil separator in that circuit will prevent oil contaminated air from entering your intake system.
This technology is important but the later model stuff has it dealt with from the factory typically and is hard to improve on.
There is a ton of information out there if you want to study it and the fixes for it. I am putting the valve and Morose separator in my Barracuda and I know positively that it will help my engine break-in clean and proper.
 
DesertRat said:
I could explain it but it would take too much time and space here. I guess my relevant comment would be that it is particularly applicable to early model engines of all stripes. Engines that we build an modify from the 50's, 60's and 70's are particularly susceptible to the harms that can come from an improperly set up PCV system. Educating yourself about the technology will help you see what we are talking about. I think it could be one of the most overlooked tuning systems in a street/daily driver engine setups. Race engines use a different system. Because my engine is running but not sealed up yet with no miles under load, (rings ect.) it is subject to pressurization of the crankcase and internals. The off the shelf PCV valve cannot manage an engine under these conditions and will pass massive of oil back into the intake vacuum point gunking up your engine. The addition of a properly tuned PCV valve will keep your engine under vacuum and a proper oil separator in that circuit will prevent oil contaminated air from entering your intake system.
This technology is important but the later model stuff has it dealt with from the factory typically and is hard to improve on.
There is a ton of information out there if you want to study it and the fixes for it. I am putting the valve and Morose separator in my Barracuda and I know positively that it will help my engine break-in clean and proper.
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OK I think I get you, I went on the Wagner website and read their FAQ section as well... Come to think of it that could explain why I did have difficulty getting my 360 to idle low enough (it would still run with the idle speed screw/throttle plates all the way closed) and I couldn't get rid of an annoying slight surge at idle regardless of initial timing, idle mixture, RPM etc. almost like it had a persistent vacuum leak. Which it probably did, in a way... holy cow it all makes sense now!! lol
 
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