Adjustable PCV and oil catch devices?

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MOPEkidD-3 said:
OK I think I get you, I went on the Wagner website and read their FAQ section as well... Come to think of it that could explain why I did have difficulty getting my 360 to idle low enough (it would still run with the idle speed screw/throttle plates all the way closed) and I couldn't get rid of an annoying slight surge at idle regardless of initial timing, idle mixture, RPM etc. almost like it had a persistent vacuum leak. Which it probably did, in a way... holy cow it all makes sense now!! lol
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Sounds like it's time to order one up!
 
Anyone who is running a wideband air fuel ratio kit, the life of your O2 sensor will be shortened if you are burning oil.
I have the Wagner valve and I also thought, that I was the only Guy to put out big bucks for a PCV Valve!
And I'm Poor, Honest, and Jewish. :lol:
 
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70 DUSTER CRATE said:
Anyone who is running a wideband air fuel ratio kit, the life of your O2 sensor will be shortened if you are using oil.
I have the Wagner valve and I also thought, that I was the only Guy to put out big bucks for a PCV Valve!
And I'm Poor, Honest, and Jewish. :lol:
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Just a guess on my part but I think our club may grow exponentially when the benefits are discovered by a wider audience. And I have a wideband O2 sensor on my new build.
You know, just wanting to get everything the little engine will do and all----------------:)
 
DesertRat said:
Just a guess on my part but I think our club may grow exponentially when the benefits are discovered by a wider audience. And I have a wideband O2 sensor on my new build.
You know, just wanting to get everything the little engine will do and all----------------:)
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I know I was ridiculed by the gang but I had done my research. Worth every penny.
 
Well mine is installed and looks like this with the Moroso oil separator installed and everything tuned. Test driving today or tomorrow.

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70 DUSTER CRATE said:
Anyone who is running a wideband air fuel ratio kit, the life of your O2 sensor will be shortened if you are using oil.
I have the Wagner valve and I also thought, that I was the only Guy to put out big bucks for a PCV Valve!
And I'm Poor, Honest, and Jewish. :lol:
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O2 on left side, evac on right...
 
Learned a lot today! After installing my Wagner PCV valve and Moroso oil separator on a new engine with no miles on it, just cam break-in I put about 125 miles on my Barracuda the last couple days. Today was service the car day and just for kicks I emptied the oil separator catch can. Below is a photo of what I caught, a little less than an ounce that would have gone through the engine if I didn't have this setup. I will be checking it every 200 miles or so and hope it gets better. In any case, a change well made for me----:)

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Nice! :thumbsup:

Looks like it's working! With a new engine like that it should drop off some too, I know I'm not getting as much oil out of mine as I was when I installed it.

I may have to get one of those adjustable pcv's yet. I know I'm pretty close but it does make a difference.
 
About a year ago I wanted to get an idea of how much oil went through the pcv system, so I rigged something up which surprised me.
The daily driven Dart managed to halfway fill up a brake-vacuum bleeder canister with water and oil sludge in just a couple of weeks driving.


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BigBlockMopar said:
About a year ago I wanted to get an idea of how much oil went through the pcv system, so I rigged something up which surprised me.
The daily driven Dart managed to halfway fill up a brake-vacuum bleeder canister with water and oil sludge in just a couple of weeks driving.


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Wow, if we only knew huh! I will be setting my Comet 289 C4 with the same setup as my Barracuda.
 
BigBlockMopar said:
About a year ago I wanted to get an idea of how much oil went through the pcv system, so I rigged something up which surprised me.
The daily driven Dart managed to halfway fill up a brake-vacuum bleeder canister with water and oil sludge in just a couple of weeks driving.


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That looks like a lot of short trips, you're collecting a little bit of oil and a bunch of condensation from the engine not spending a lot of time at temperature. I get that in the winter, during the summer I mostly just get oil.
 
Wintertime driving gives quite some white sludge in the engine.
Now as the temps are rising again overhere the sludge is pretty much gone again.

I used to select the PCV with the 'most leakage' which seemed to help a tiny bit keeping the amount of sludge tolerable.

Now these days I'm wondering if I can rig up a digitally adjustable/controlled pcv system with the Megasquirt ECU...
 
BigBlockMopar said:
Wintertime driving gives quite some white sludge in the engine.
Now as the temps are rising again overhere the sludge is pretty much gone again.

I used to select the PCV with the 'most leakage' which seemed to help a tiny bit keeping the amount of sludge tolerable.

Now these days I'm wondering if I can rig up a digitally adjustable/controlled pcv system with the Megasquirt ECU...
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It's possible. The MS can do impressive things if you know what you are doing.
 
This topic had me take another look at the PCV valve in my 318.
I had once selected the valve which had the most flow at idle so it would keep white sludge at a minimum during the colder winter months.

Now the cold overhere is fairly gone, I got out my stash of pcv valves again and some 'fresh' ones I located recently.
I've got 4 the plastic valves and 3 '60s metal valves which seem to have a longer throw into them. Only one plastic valve had a readable number on it.

However when testing a few of soft sprung ones, none of them was able to limit airflow during engine idle. My engine idles with 23-24 in.Hg, so it should be well able to pull any pcv valve shut I would think.
In the end I installed a metal pcv valve I had around which had a smaller entry hole, about 3/4rd the size of the other regular pcv valves and felt to have the softest spring inside.
 
DesertRat said:
Learned a lot today! After installing my Wagner PCV valve and Moroso oil separator on a new engine with no miles on it, just cam break-in I put about 125 miles on my Barracuda the last couple days. Today was service the car day and just for kicks I emptied the oil separator catch can. Below is a photo of what I caught, a little less than an ounce that would have gone through the engine if I didn't have this setup. I will be checking it every 200 miles or so and hope it gets better. In any case, a change well made for me----:)

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Do you have a baffle under the elbow in the valve cover? That is a large amount of oil for 125 miles.

Be interesting to see if it reduces after some more run time!
 
1969383S said:
Do you have a baffle under the elbow in the valve cover? That is a large amount of oil for 125 miles.

Be interesting to see if it reduces after some more run time!
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Yes the valve covers are well baffled. I have to turn down the valve a bit. I wanted it a bit strong at first.
 
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