Hays Street/Strip Clutch 85-301

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Just for information, I just purchased a new Hays 85-301 Street/Strip clutch for my 1969 Dart and it was drop shipped from Holley Performance Products. I've had a Hays clutch like this before and the pressure plate cover is completely cadmium coated, the disc is gold in color and has 8 damper springs. That's what the picture showed on the website I ordered from. Upon opening the box, I found a black painted clutch cover that looks like a reconditioned one from one of the standard auto parts stores you can get for $100 and the disc looks like one from a Zoom 30027 that I've seen on the internet. The disc has no spring marcel between the facings to make it good for street driving. Just a word of caution. Evidently Holley has acquired Hays and is doing their own thing. I talked to a Holley representative and they sent me a picture of what they had in stock as a Hays 85-301. It looked just like the one I received.
 
Ugh, was hoping to order one for my sons Duster soon. This is disturbing to hear. Let us know what happens.
 
I was eyeing that clutch a few weeks back on Summit website. It was a little more than I wanted to pay so I ended up ordering the Ram, Borg & Beck OEM clutch from Summit. It's been 6 days now and I'm still waiting for it to be delivered.
 
694spd said:
I was eyeing that clutch a few weeks back on Summit website. It was a little more than I wanted to pay so I ended up ordering the Ram, Borg & Beck OEM clutch from Summit. It's been 6 days now and I'm still waiting for it to be delivered.
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That's unusual for Summit. Let us know if your happy with it. I'm unsure about the Hayes now.
 
That's a bummer. I've had that clutch kit in my Duster for 10 years now. It gets flogged mercilessly and still holding up. Was planning to replace the disc with another Hays piece when the time came, now maybe not.
 
Holley said they would refund my money but before I send it back I'll try to get some pictures on here to show what it looks like. It may be an ok clutch but it definitely is not what is advertised.
 
Here's what you get.
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I don't think it will work well for driving on the street.

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not to sidetrack the thread, but what happened to Weber Clutches? They made good stuff. I tried googling them, but all I could find is that they only make cams, now.
 
Good little video Daves69. That's why I don't think they should be marketing this as a street/strip clutch because it looks like a race only disc.
 
To me, I'd rather not have the marcel. It doesn't do anything and it makes the disc materiel flex. I run a sintered iron unsprung hub on the street and you'd never know it as it doesn't chatter. Smooth as butter.

I'd be concerned more about how much plate load you have and make sure it doesn't have any centrifugal assist.

Take it to a local clutch shop, verify finger height with that disc, make sure it has no roller assist and set it at 2400 pounds of static plate load and run it.
 
weber clutch became mcloed clutch. for a strip and street disc, you don't need marcel, as the marcel interfers with smooth clutch on power shifting. marcel is for street only! mcloeds were same way, 100 series was street only, 200 was street and strip, no marcel, 300 was race only. actually, with no marcel it shifts better.
 
I just installed the Mcleod Street Pro in my 340 Dart a month ago. It hooks up very well and is as smooth as you would want. The worst part of the whole deal was getting the over center spring out.
i am well pleased with the outcome.
Jerry
 
Update. I decided to use this pressure plate, but I got a McLeod 260120 disc which has the Marcel but otherwise looks exactly like the one I got with the Hays set. I will post how it works once I get it installed.
 
Update. I decided to use this pressure plate, but I got a McLeod 260120 disc which has the Marcel but otherwise looks exactly like the one I got with the Hays set. I will post how it works once I get it installed.
 
perfacar said:
weber clutch became mcloed clutch. for a strip and street disc, you don't need marcel, as the marcel interfers with smooth clutch on power shifting. marcel is for street only! mcloeds were same way, 100 series was street only, 200 was street and strip, no marcel, 300 was race only. actually, with no marcel it shifts better.
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Interesting. My street clutch shifts like butter but I can't power shift into second to save my azz.
 
I haven't got it installed yet. I'm using a mid eighties OD trans so I had to get my bearing retainer and bellhousing machined. My old 4 speed Duster was like that Toolmanmike, if it was still spinning in first, but if it wasn't spinning it would go right into second. Crazy I know.
 
Another hold up I've had is repair on the front suspension. I was riding along one day and suddenly my headers were scraping the road. Turns out the torsion bar twisted out of the crossmember on the driver side. Funny thing is that it didn't look rusted at all from the outside. The metal was as thin as tissue paper. So I replaced the section of crossmember with one from a donor car and put in new floor pans while I was at it. Back on the road!
 
nckennyb said:
......Turns out the torsion bar twisted out of the crossmember on the driver side...........
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Had a bar snap on my '66 Charger passenger side. Sounded like a bomb went off. Right turns were extra wide on the way home!
 
I had to leave mine on the side of the road and come back and get it with a trailer. I don't think my headers would have made it if I had driven it all the way back home.
 
marcel, lets clutch hang up and not release cleanly on power shifting. you have to run more gap on disc. that's why , non marcel disc are better!!!
 
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