Lower Back Pain in the Morning?

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Like most problems (health or even vehicle quirks) I can perform an internet search and find someone with the exact same problem/question. However, the more reading I do, the more confusing it becomes because the exact cause and remedy are still a mystery.

I even found this quote from someone else that describes what I find to be true, sleeping in a recliner chair eliminates the problem. But I don't know why or what the root problem is. Must be common and obvious, but like I said, the internet forums just go on an on without a definitive answer:

"I did find something else that works for me 100% of the time: Sleeping in a recliner. I can sleep 12 hours straight in a recliner and wake up with no pain. My husband puts up with it because he knows how miserable I am when I'm in extreme pain after yet another night of only 5 hours of sleep. I suspect it's because the recliner changes the weight distribution on my back and shifts it into my hips and butt."

My wife complains about lower back in the morning also. It seems ironic that what is supposed to be a period of rest and relaxation has now become a literal pain in the butt (well, back). Can anyone clear this mystery "pain" for me once and for all? Is there a doctor in the house? Thank you.

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I don't know. I slipped a disk a couple months back. Really hurts had to wake up every morning and ice my back. I just started feeling better couple weeks ago. Still wake up in the am hurting, till I get moving around. It does suck getting old. And bad Back's are no Joke's.
 
I have a similar problem, but it's my pelvis.

I don't have a recliner, but I can sleep on the love seat with legs hanging over one arm and not have the issue.

Problem then moves to my neck.

Grrrrr
 
Does you sleep on your left or right side, or back? Does it help if trying to sleep on your other side?
Has the bed sagged? Try putting a folded blanket under the matress at various positions along the week to see if that helps or feels any better.
 
I sleep at home, relative's house, vacation cabin, motel beds, all the same pain in the morning. I sleep on back, left side, right side, pillow under knees, pillow between knees, all the same pain in the morning.
 
BigBlockMopar said:
Does you sleep on your left or right side, or back? Does it help if trying to sleep on your other side?
Has the bed sagged? Try putting a folded blanket under the matress at various positions along the week to see if that helps or feels any better.
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This, helps me ....I use a sheep skin lumbar support, to ease my mid back pain. Thinking nerves ,and possibly disc work needed.
 
Most of the time, the most common reason for the back pain the OP described is because of weakened abdominal muscles that come with age. The stomach sags outward when sleeping on your side and pulls unevenly on the lower back during the night. This is especially pronounced in older women who have had children.

Common remedies are sleeping with a pillow partially tucked under your stomach to support the sag, sleeping in a recliner to force a back sleeping position, and least often adopted is doing ab crunches regularly to tighten and strengthen the abdominal muscles.
 
Ddaddy said:
Most of the time, the most common reason for the back pain the OP described is because of weakened abdominal muscles that come with age. The stomach sags outward when sleeping on your side and pulls unevenly on the lower back during the night. This is especially pronounced in older women who have had children.

Common remedies are sleeping with a pillow partially tucked under your stomach to support the sag, sleeping in a recliner to force a back sleeping position, and least often adopted is doing ab crunches regularly to tighten and strengthen the abdominal muscles.
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Exactly...lost 40 pounds ,a lot of the pain ,went away... You are absolutely correct, about the abs workout...
 
I am 220# now. At 5ft 9 I should be under 180. I used to suffer the saggy middle sore back syndrome. Then I quit working as a mechanic, and became a trash-collector for 11 hours a week. And bye-bye backpain. I hand-bomb every bag into a 12 ft tow-behind trailer.When picking up from the passenger side, instead of walking around the pick-up truck, or the trailer, I go over the hitch. I do this by supporting all of my 220 pounds with my arms, and with my ab-muscles, lift my legs together at the same time, up and over the trailer tongue.
When I first started doing this it was as good as impossible, so I went one atta time in a sort of walking motion.And often my arms could not support the 200 pounds that I was at. Now 4 years later, chucking 4500 to 5000 or 5500 pounds a week,occasionally close to 6000 pounds, it has become a natural motion.
Here's the kicker ;
I chuck this weight in two 5 hour shifts which includes delivering it to a landfill site, where I dump it hydraulically. The actual chucking time is about 2.5 hours per day. Then I do very little physical labor for 5 days until the following Wednesday. Guess what happens when I go back to work, that's right; even before I start my shift, my back is complaining just a little. But about 20 minutes later, everything is normal.
I have come to believe we humans were created to work and to walk, and that if we sit around too much, it ain't good for us. So, I got me a 70pound dog, and I feed the bugger a little more than necessary, Fiber wise. So he needs exercising twice a day. I make sure that I walk him, or bicycle him on at least one of those occasions, and we go for 2.5 miles usually.
Problem solved.
But no, the weight is not coming off; thanks for asking.
I heard Abe Lincoln could sign his name, at arm's length, with 50pounds hanging off his wrist ; well, I'm not that strong yet. But man am I glad not to be wrenching anymore.
So I guess the point is; strong abs helped me. I'm sure if I lost 20/30/40 pounds it wouldn't hurt either.
Oh yeah, as to the bed; I can sleep on the floor if I want to, or in a chair, or pretty much anywhere now, in fact, sometimes I fall asleep ty


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Ddaddy said:
Most of the time, the most common reason for the back pain the OP described is because of weakened abdominal muscles that come with age. The stomach sags outward when sleeping on your side and pulls unevenly on the lower back during the night. This is especially pronounced in older women who have had children.

Common remedies are sleeping with a pillow partially tucked under your stomach to support the sag, sleeping in a recliner to force a back sleeping position, and least often adopted is doing ab crunches regularly to tighten and strengthen the abdominal muscles.
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Yep! years ago I asked a Chiropractor why all the lower back pain. He immediately patted his stomach and said if your core is in shape your back pain will be gone. Now if you have lower back disc issues it might not completely illiminate the pain. I have a bulged lumbar disc that used to cause major sciatic pain. Thanks to my chiropractor and retirement and most of my issues have disappeared. I do need to exercise more though. I sleep terrible with my arms and hands going asleep. I have a memory foam mattress which has helped.
 
For most of my life I have been relatively active. If you call the USMC an active lifestyle.

After retiring from the Corps I say at a desk as a Technical Writer for 15 years - big midtake!

Anyway I just had a 5 layer laminectomy (back surgery) that I am finally healing from.

Seems to have helped me!
 
Start lifting weights, and exercising more. Helps me on all accounts.

When I do wake up sore, it's a good sore. Be sure to include a good stretching routine and work your core.
 
You probably shouldn't have done all that friggin the night before.
 
MrJLR said:
That's my problem as well.....it's God awful

Jeff
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Yep. Have three of them from an unplanned date with an SUV on my bike. I loved that Buell.

Pillow under the knees helps some.
The better shape I am in, the less it hurts. But still always hurts. Always.

My work doesn’t help with the vibrations and sitting. And body armor.
 
I used to have terrible back pain more than a few years ago. It was suggested that I try Oil of Oregano. The stuff from a health food store that they fill from the bulk barrel not the pre bottled stuff. I would take a few drops of it under the tongue for a few months and 1 day I noticed I didn’t have any pain. I only take it now when I need it. Kim
 
Pelvis.
It twists, it slips fro the lumbar some.
Reset it, lay on back and lift your *** up with your legs....then drop to the ground..

Stand up, both arms reach behind and with your thumbs pushed into your sciatic..lean back while breathing out... you may feel a little pop as your disk or lumbar slips back into place.
 
Hmmm....been living with back pain for close to 40 years now....if there is one "blanket" answer I have never heard it. Back pain can be very complex. I have been advised by various members here to see a chiropractor, smoke pot, use CBD etc etc. Not trying to sound like an *** but.....don't you think I have tried all of that??
One thing that several members have raved about working for them is an inversion table...well...that does not work for everyone neither. Last MRI I had, which was a year ago already, showed some difference from the previous ones. Several consults later...well...I am just about at the end of the road.
Discs.....miserable little bastards as we age. Often time when one has a herniated disc a fusion is talked about. In talking with my physical therapist he said that he sees about a 70% FAILURE rate when a fusion is done. Surgeon I recently saw said that if someone....and he stressed that it would NOT be him, were to fuse my problem area (s) I would be in that failure category. My main culprit is the L4-L5 disc. It is herniated. Problem is it is herniated towards the front. So if someone were to fuse my spine it will do NADA for my pain. Making my spine less mobile will not help in my case because the area where the nerves are located is roughly compromised by 50%. Inserting hardware will do nothing to decrease the nerve compression. Further complicating my problem is my L3 disc has experienced some slippage so if I were to find a doc that would fuse L4 & L5 it will only create more stress on L3...This surgeon has referred me out to see another doc...this particular guy is well known in this area for his success with Spinal Cord Stimulators...
Spinal Cord Stimulation, SCS, Spinal cord stimulators
This is pretty much my last hope. When my trip, to get off of these effing Dopioids, started earlier this year I was feeling pretty confident that I would find an answer. That this answer was going to give me some semblance of my normal life back. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, one of the things that rides on chronic pains coat tails is depression. And once both become part of your life...well....they become so tightly wrapped around each other that they both slowly, steadily increase until some bad thoughts enter your mind. Hell....not a day goes by that I don't think about the business end of 1911.
The moral of my ramblings.....GO SEE A DOCTOR!! No offense to anyone hear....but you do realize that many of the members here lack the knowledge it takes to rebuild the front end of one of these ancient cars...do you really think that they have ANY idea on the cause of pain? Hell....many folks on here will tell you that prayer is the answer...hmmm.....don't see how a religious belief system will restore a disc that is herniated but hey...if it makes you feel better go for it.
One thing to remember the longer you deal with any pain the chance at stopping it goes down...that whole acute vs chronic thing. So...smoke your "medical pot" (how the hell does a plant know whether it is medicinal or recreational anyway), use your CBD oil, go buy an inversion table, practice yoga. Go enroll in a palates class. Try Olive oil under your hairy bean bag. But please do try and remember this one thing....the longer you spend jerking around, reading forums, taking the advice of people who had a loved one just flat out get lucky with any of the things I mentioned above...well....you are increasing the chances of what very may well be an acute type of medical condition that, properly diagnosed and dealt with very well may become a life altering chronic condition.
 
Go see a doctor....the internet is NOT a place to diagnose something that can turn into a life long pain. What qualifies me to say this?4 decades of back pain. A decade of Opiuse which has led to me having Central Sleep Apnea thanks to the Opiods blocking not just the pain signals but also the signals to make me breathe
 
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