Replacing my speedometer cable

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On my 65 Dart im planning on replacing my damaged speedometer cable. Now I know how to remove it from the interior but im having issue of getting it out from my A904 transmission since it looks like it goes directly into the tail housing. Does that mean I have to remove the tail housing to get to it? Im asking that due to a replacement A904 cable that i saw has a plastic clip on one of the ends.
 
No, the speedometer cable is held into the tail housing via a forked retainer. Just remove the bolt on the retainer and pull the cable from the tail housing. Be prepared for transmission fluid to pour out once removed! 65'
 
Plymouth 65 said:
No, the speedometer cable is held into the tail housing via a forked retainer. Just remove the bolt on the retainer and pull the cable from the tail housing. Be prepared for transmission fluid to pour out once removed! 65'
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Thats how you get it out? I tried pulling it after remvoing the retainer but it didnt budge i guess it just didnt move since it had alot of dirt and grime built up around the cable itself, what would you recommend doing to pull it out other than using brake cleaner to get all the gunk off?
 
BeetleDart65 said:
On my 65 Dart im planning on replacing my damaged speedometer cable. Now I know how to remove it from the interior but im having issue of getting it out from my A904 transmission since it looks like it goes directly into the tail housing. Does that mean I have to remove the tail housing to get to it? Im asking that due to a replacement A904 cable that i saw has a plastic clip on one of the ends.
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On the 64 Dart, removing the cable from the transmission involves removing a clip on the outside, and sliding it out gently to disconnect it, then piling it and matching it back up when removing it.

IT may be slightly different on the 65, but I doubt it, should just remove a clip and Ben able to remove it
 
Agree, they are in there pretty tight and have an o ring seal also. I try to clean it off real good. I spray some penetrating oil on it. You may even try giving it a few light taps. You have to pull it straight out, don't side load it. It's a tight fit! 65'
 
If your cable is damaged there’s a company in TX (Texas Industrial Electric) that will take the part that goes into the transmission (which is not available anywhere to my knowledge), add new OEM steel cable and a new fitting to the speedometer head. Voilà new cable. They do good work.
 
Also, if you need a new cable, try Speedometer Solutions. Made one for my Sport with the Dodge speedo end and a 200-4R trans end. Excellent work, shipped the day after I ordered it, and very nice quality.
 
A cable with a plastic clip on one end is for 68 and later speedometer. 67 and earlier have a collector nut to screw onto speedometer. That later plastic sleeve and clip does align and support the cable better. Best we can do is snug up the nut.
Clean the hardened contaminated grease crud from the speedometers square drive port before poking a new cable in there. Route the cable to the instrument as straight as possible. Forces form the cable in any direction is what kills these instruments.
 
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I was able to get it out with the help you guys gave, now bear with me this is my first attempt at doing this. The whole speedometer gear came out with it. Did i went to far or is the whole thing a single unit, and if so, is there any where that i could order it from?
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That is normal - you see the little clip at tge end? Take a small screwdriver and pry it away and the gear will slide right off. Now what is wrong with what you’re showing in the pic?
 
65 Dartman said:
That is normal - you see the little clip at tge end? Take a small screwdriver and pry it away and the gear will slide right off. Now what is wrong with what you’re showing in the pic?
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I was the using the pic as a confirmation if i did it right, now if the sleeve that protects the cable has a few cuts in it, is that fine to cover up with like tape or some sort of wrapping or should i try and get that fixed
 
Transmission fluid is gonna get by any tape or other “fix”. Best fix is new, which because of that end in the pic, will be near impossible to find. Best solution: Texas Industrial Electric will take your cable, remove the end that you’re showing, add new OEM cable and a new speedometer head fitting. When done, it’s like a NOS cable. I’ve had several done.
Don
 
65 Dartman said:
Transmission fluid is gonna get by any tape or other “fix”. Best fix is new, which because of that end in the pic, will be near impossible to find. Best solution: Texas Industrial Electric will take your cable, remove the end that you’re showing, add new OEM cable and a new speedometer head fitting. When done, it’s like a NOS cable. I’ve had several done.
Don
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Ok, thanks for the advice, now im not expecting it to be done next day but from your experience whats the average time you had to wait for them to work on it and send it back? Since i would be sending it to them from florida maybe it would be 3-4 days?
 
I would give a longer lead time. I just had 1 stock 65 done plus a custom one for my 65 wagon. And due to the amount of work (not just my 2 little jobs), lead time was about 3 weeks.
The only other solution for a reasonably quick turn around is if i take yours in exchange for mine i had done plus what TIE charged me. Drop me a PM to discuss if interested.
Don
 
65 Dartman said:
I would give a longer lead time. I just had 1 stock 65 done plus a custom one for my 65 wagon. And due to the amount of work (not just my 2 little jobs), lead time was about 3 weeks.
The only other solution for a reasonably quick turn around is if i take yours in exchange for mine i had done plus what TIE charged me. Drop me a PM to discuss if interested.
Don
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I'll keep it in mind, but i question i have after looking online i saw a few that looked almost the same as my assembly but without the gear included, would it work if i got one that was made for chryslers of the same years as my dart and put my gear on it? or would that not work at all
 
Gears are interchangeable depending on rear end ratio and tire size. I've probably got 5 or 6 different gears of different color persuasions.
 
65 Dartman said:
Gears are interchangeable depending on rear end ratio and tire size. I've probably got 5 or 6 different gears of different color persuasions.
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I’ve got some speedo issues on my ‘64 that I’m hoping a new speedometer cable can fix.

Not the least of which is that my tires are larger now than stock. If I understand correctly, they are able to account for that when you send it in?
 
chinze57 said:
I’ve got some speedo issues on my ‘64 that I’m hoping a new speedometer cable can fix.

Not the least of which is that my tires are larger now than stock. If I understand correctly, they are able to account for that when you send it in?
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Nope - it all depends on the user interchangeable gear. All Tx Electric does is replace the cracked/broken cable and reuse the plug that goes into the transmission and add the part that attaches to the speedo head. In my 65 FSM it lists various tire sizes and rear end gear ratios to give you the recommended speedo gear. Tire sizes are the old style 7.50x14 for example.
 
65 Dartman said:
Nope - it all depends on the user interchangeable gear. All Tx Electric does is replace the cracked/broken cable and reuse the plug that goes into the transmission and add the part that attaches to the speedo head. In my 65 FSM it lists various tire sizes and rear end gear ratios to give you the recommended speedo gear. Tire sizes are the old style 7.50x14 for example.
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Ahh got it. In my manual it lists my stock tires at 13” rims, while I’ve got 14” currently. I already have a dysfunctional Speedo, despite being hooked up. I believe the cable is broken as there are several gashes in it. I’ll look at getting it rebuilt/replaced and then getting a new driven gear after I figure out my percent error.
 
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