There goes the A body Market

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We were just talkin about that car in another thread about how horribly mismatched that stripe was.
 
We were just talkin about that car in another thread about how horribly mismatched that stripe was.
I wonder how much influence these auction shows have on prices? Making us believe what's in our garage is what the collector's cars of value. When of course? They're not. Lol. And with the economy actually doing well as far as money in people's pockets. But inflation may very well be playing a role in classic car prices as well. Combine the two? You get what we see here as this example.
 
I wonder how much influence these auction shows have on prices? Making us believe what's in our garage is what the collector's cars of value. When of course? They're not. Lol. And with the economy actually doing well as far as money in people's pockets. But inflation may very well be playing a role in classic car prices as well. Combine the two? You get what we see here as this example.
I just flat out don't worry about it. I've always found if somebody wants something I have, they'll pay the price to get it. If I want to sell it, I will. If not, I won't. Take old Vixen. I don't think right now I'd take 25K for her and she's not worth even half that. Maybe not a fourth. But she's brought many times more happiness than that could ever buy.
 
I have an 86 Fox body convertible, and I'm waiting for someone to make me an offer, but the last time someone approached me was 10 years ago, and it was Lowball so I said "its not for sale..." any more I just keep driving it its fun. Actually I think its too fast for a ragtop and I always envision myself losing it and being ejected from behind the wheel, I know guys who had hatchbacks who were ejected when the car rolled...
 
I have an 86 Fox body convertible, and I'm waiting for someone to make me an offer, but the last time someone approached me was 10 years ago, and it was Lowball so I said "its not for sale..." any more I just keep driving it its fun. Actually I think its too fast for a ragtop and I always envision myself losing it and being ejected from behind the wheel, I know guys who had hatchbacks who were ejected when the car rolled...
I have a 03 Mustang Cobra with 80k on odometer. There is a run on them too. This is the first year of the supercharged SVT 4.6l V-8 "Terminator" like your Fox body. Fun car.

Against my near stock '69 GTX 440. It pulls in 1/4 mi to beat the Plymouth by about a full second. (GTX manual 4-speed vs Cobra's manual 6-speed.) At a 70 MPH punch? It jumps out to a small lead. But 440 does real it in at over 100 MPH. Both are very simular 3600+ lbs. Both about 400 HP. (The 440 cube advantage does eventually beat the smaller Supercharged engine.)

I'm likely selling Cobra while market is hot for this car.
 
WOW! $95k??? Maybe it's time to sell mine. I'm not greedy I only want $50k. I figure it is a 500 point car. LOL
 
just the opposite of what one would think, when the economy and uncertain times hit, collectible values go up. They are considered having a tangible value versus cash in the bank.
why else would a dealer offer me 30,000 for a 2016 challenger SXT (20k miles)recently that I paid 28,000 for in 2016?
 
I wonder how much influence these auction shows have on prices? Making us believe what's in our garage is what the collector's cars of value. When of course? They're not. Lol. And with the economy actually doing well as far as money in people's pockets. But inflation may very well be playing a role in classic car prices as well. Combine the two? You get what we see here as this example.
I assume they have some influence on actual sale prices, but they have a big influence on asking prices. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have looked at a car for myself or with a friend as an advisor. You always hear, "I've seen these go for lot of money on TV." Two examples: I went to look at a 65 Impala SS with a friend. A widow was selling her late husband's car. It was rough, did not even close to an original drive train, lots of rust, floors were roughly patched with what looked to be 14 gauge sheet steel welded by a blind welder, trashed interior, etc. She wanted $10k for it about 22 years ago. She said her nephew told her not to take a penny less, because they were selling for $40k restored. I told her the car was probably $50k away from being worth that much not counting the purchase price.
I saw a 68 Barracuda FB on a local used car lot several years ago. Obviously I had to stop. It appeared to be a real 383 4 speed Formula S. It was rough. I asked how much, and he said $25K; "These things go for $60K when restored. I told him that it was probably at least $60k away from that plus the purchase price. I left him a business card and asked him to call me if he could not get his desired price. He never called.
 
I assume they have some influence on actual sale prices, but they have a big influence on asking prices. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have looked at a car for myself or with a friend as an advisor. You always hear, "I've seen these go for lot of money on TV." Two examples: I went to look at a 65 Impala SS with a friend. A widow was selling her late husband's car. It was rough, did not even close to an original drive train, lots of rust, floors were roughly patched with what looked to be 14 gauge sheet steel welded by a blind welder, trashed interior, etc. She wanted $10k for it about 22 years ago. She said her nephew told her not to take a penny less, because they were selling for $40k restored. I told her the car was probably $50k away from being worth that much not counting the purchase price.
I saw a 68 Barracuda FB on a local used car lot several years ago. Obviously I had to stop. It appeared to be a real 383 4 speed Formula S. It was rough. I asked how much, and he said $25K; "These things go for $60K when restored. I told him that it was probably at least $60k away from that plus the purchase price. I left him a business card and asked him to call me if he could not get his desired price. He never called.
Well, ALOT of that depends on what YOU can do Yourself, if You Have Connections in the Mopar Lovers World near You, and Parts Chain You can actually access. It's not like We Can hit the Boneyard on the weekends and grab parts these days..
 
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Last offer I had on mine was back in like 2010 or so. If you could call someone yelling at me from across the parking lot an offer. Lol
 
just the opposite of what one would think, when the economy and uncertain times hit, collectible values go up. They are considered having a tangible value versus cash in the bank.
why else would a dealer offer me 30,000 for a 2016 challenger SXT (20k miles)recently that I paid 28,000 for in 2016?


Crazy isn’t it? The dealerships are looking for Challengers, I have a 2018 T/A 392 we bought new and they would love to get it back and I’m sure I’d make out good too, but I love the car so here it stays, and they will be done making them soon so that’s another reason to keep and enjoy it. I belong to a T/A FB page and there are several people who traded their used ones in on a new one and got more for their trade than they paid in many cases...just crazy! I know these are not old cars, but it’s sure strange to see that.
 
Crazy isn’t it? The dealerships are looking for Challengers, I have a 2018 T/A 392 we bought new
I bought a brand new 2018 T/A 392 back in 2018. I sold it in 2020 because I was only putting 500 miles a year on it but it was a fun car.
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just the opposite of what one would think, when the economy and uncertain times hit, collectible values go up. They are considered having a tangible value versus cash in the bank.
why else would a dealer offer me 30,000 for a 2016 challenger SXT (20k miles)recently that I paid 28,000 for in 2016?

Wow! We paid ~$20K for our 2019 SXT in early 2020. That would would be a tidy little profit!

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About 5 years ago I visited Dennis Kohr at his shop. Im sure most of you've heard of him and know his work.
Dennis is a real gentleman, at the time he had a Dart he was just about done restoring, goes without saying the car was impeccable. He told me the owner was into it for 100 grand
For some folks a perfectly restored car is what they want and they have the funds to afford it, great for them and while its not my thing to have a car sit in a garage just so I can stare at it for others have a trailer queen, racking up awards is their thing
Most restorations of these types are well over six figures and if the owner sold that car the OP posted for 95 large, good for him.
 
I'll stick with my (originally 318) car, with a 340, built the way I wanted it. I really don't give a flip what it's worth because I'll still be driving it when I die... I do like the fact that higher prices and folks with deep pockets restoring A bodies seems to translate to more reproduction parts...
 
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