Z Bar arms/angles?

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DART66GT

DART66GT

62 Lancer GT - B Body 8 3/4
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I shortened a Z Bar to work in my Dart. The bar was from a later a body. The angle of the lower arm seems to be to far back. I moved it until seems to work. Can someone tell me or show a pic. of the original angle of an a body z bar arm? If i look straight down from the fenderwell side the upper arm at 12 oclock the lower now is at about 7 originally it was around 8 oclock. Hope that makes sense.
 
Anyone? Maybe a pic of a z bar looking straight down the tube? I'd like to weld it tomorrow and can't find any info.
 
I have pictures of my Z-bar installed in my 1972 but it is a modified (cut) /6 bar. It works just fine.

Would that help?
 
Let me rephrase this question. With the z bar installed on an a body (and the clutch pedal fully up) does the lower arm (engine side) point straight down or towards the front of the car? any help would really be appreciated.
 
Is your clutch size 9 inch (stock for /6 and early A V8s) or 10.5 inch (upgraded)?

I have an original Z Bar from my 65 Barracuda (9 inch flywheel), I could locate it and photograph it later this week (if that’s what your looking for).

When I built my Z Bars for my 10.5 inch clutch application I tried to hug the bell housing as close as possible, which placed the lower arm almost straight down and directly in line with the clutch fork.

Enclosed picture #1 is for a Z Bar for a 10.5 inch bell housing that I modified when I ran a diaphragm clutch.

Enclosed picture #2 is my current configuration with a MoPar Performance Scallop Clutch, the lower arm is straight and longer but still inline with clutch fork

Good luck, this job took a while to get it to work well

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Thanks for the pics. I have the 10.5" clutch. Your arms look almost 180 degrees apart. My bar was originally (supposedly) from a later model a body. The lower arm pointed towards the front of the car a couple of inches. I shortened the tube for my 66. Now when I mock things up it looks like the arm should point straight down and everything fits. Does it matter if I rotate it a little?
 
Do you still want any more installed pictures? I can take them right now.
 
I would just buy the 10.5 conversion kit right from Brewers Performance (THE MOPAR 4-SPEED GODS!) :notworth:. I swaped in the 10.5 clutch in my car and their parts fit awesome!! No fabrication was needed, a true bolt in!! Everything works great, I got the Z-bar, clutch fork bracket, adjuster kit, ball stud bracket, everything is brand new and is made for the 63-66 early a-body. Let me know if you want some pics of my set-up, I can get some later if you want. One nice thing is the Z-bar is way more heavy duty than the puny stock one! I do have a stock early a-body z-bar if you need one, let me know! Good luck, Keith. :thumblef:
 
Here are some pictures and details....Early A Z-bar.....

Z-bar is (without ball studs) 7" wide, the longer arm with the bend that points down is 6" and the shorter straight arm that points up is just a hair under 5".

Early A Z-bars are all the same, V-8 or 6! The trans side ball stud bracket looks slightly different. I also will post some pics of the ball stud brackets later. The 2 pictured are the same, just thought the painted one would show up better. The non-painted one I would be willing to sell. Hope this helps!!

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Early A ball stud brackets...

The black one is from a slant six car, non-painted is from a 273 car. The larger one is the same for either engine, mounts to the inner fender.

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