Can anyone of you experts decode this vin please !
Doesn't jive with the decoders I found on the web.
Doesn't jive with the decoders I found on the web.
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65 Vin plate.
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It's on a 65 you say, Al? That's odd with the 5 digit in position 1 and too few numbers.
The "Vehicle No." makes it feel like a recreated tag?
This off of that Barracuda?
The "Vehicle No." makes it feel like a recreated tag?
This off of that Barracuda?
Looks suspicious to me I believe 65 plates were glued or spot welded on. No rivets.
Not to say someone didn't remove it and rivet it back on.
Not to say someone didn't remove it and rivet it back on.
Doesn't really matter,it's getting scrapped. Kid said it was a 64, but it has a auto floor shift, I was told that's 65. Kid also said it had a slant but looks like a V8 center link !
Yeah, that's an odd duck there. I think I've seen a couple other threads where missing VINs were replaced at the State or Province level "back in the day"
Closest that gets is not an A-body though.
But then again, some of the decoder sites don't show a "9" Windsor Plant
It wont be online because it is an 8 digit number. The Vins that are so old that they had to add 2 numbers at the front in order to have it registered. My 65 was that way. That is a perfectly legit tag!
It's a created VIN.
Well it really doesn't matter it's going to the scrap yard soon. Was just wondering how to read it. You all do see the faint V8 in front of the number?
I see it...
Any of the earlier years that would have been designated by the first character of the VIN , which is why I'm pretty sure it's a replacement from some point in the cars life.
Anomolies like these at really cool though. You're keeping the tag?
Well, that changes everything. That does make it a 65 Barracuda.
Did they put "V8" on there though, Mike?
Thought it was either just a V or an L
From the ALPAR gang
1960-1965 Series and VINs
The car lines spread out in 1965. We'll break out 1960-64 from 1965 later. This setup might have been car-only.
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5-10 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Car Line, 1960-64** | Series | Year | Plant | Identifier |
| 1 - Valiant 2 - Plymouth Six 3- Plymouth 8 4- Dodge 6 5- Dodge V8* 6 - Varies, see* 7 - Varies, see* 8 - Chrysler 9 - Imperial L - Dart V8 | See guide below | Last digit of model year | 1 - Lynch Road (Detroit) 2 - Dodge Main (Hamtramck) 3 - Jefferson Ave (Detroit) 4 - Belvidere (IL) 5 - Los Angeles 6 - Newark (DE) 7 - St. Louis (MO) 8 - Clairpointe (MO) 9 - Windsor (Ontario) | Sequential numbers |
This series basically follows the pattern of 1 = Low, 2 = Medium, 3 = High, 4 = Premium; 5 = Low Station Wagon, 6 = Medium Station Wagon, 7 = High Station Wagon; 8 = Taxi, 9 = Police, 0 = Fleet/Special.
* for 1963-64, 5 = Dodge 880. 6 = Matadora/Polara (1960), DeSoto (1961), Dodge 880 (1962), Dodge V8 (1963-64). 7=DeSoto (1960), Lancer (1961-62), Dart 6 (1963-64).
** 1965: 1 = Valiant 6. V = Valiant 273. 2 = Dart 6. L = Dart V8. 3,4,5 = Plymouth Six. P,R,W = Plymouth 8. D=Dodge, C=Chrysler, Y=Imperial
- Valiant V100, Lancer/Dart 170, Belvedere I, Coronet Deluxe, 330, 880, Savoy, Polara, Newport, Custom, Seneca, Matador, Savoy, Windsor, Crown, LeBaron
- Belvedere, 440, Coronet, Dart 330, 300 "non-letter", Crown, Pioneer, Saratoga
- Valiant V200, Lancer 770, New Yorker, LeBaron, Dart 270, Belvedere II, Coronet 440, Fury, Polara, Phoenix
- Signet, Barracuda, Polara 500, Lancer GT, 300H, Dart GT, Satellite, Coronet 500, Sport Fury, 300 letter cars
- Wagons: Valiant V100, Dart 170, Lancer 170, Town & Country, 880, Belvedere I, Coronet, Savoy, 330, Seneca, Matador, Windsor
- Pioneer, Belvedere, and Dart 330 Wagons
- Wagons: Valiant V200, Lancer 770, New Yorker Town & Country, Suburban, Dart 270, Belvedere II, Coronet 440, Fury, Polara
- Taxi
- Police
0 = (1962) Fleet, (1963) Fleet, 880, or 300 Pace Setter, (1964-65) Belvedere and Coronet Super Stock
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In 65, V is Valiant/Barracuda and 8 is Barracuda (specifically) The 3rd digit is 5 which is 65. 2 is Hamtramck and the last 6 digits are the sequence number.
I don't need the vin tag for anything.
I see V852528308
V= Valiant
5 = 1965
2 = Detroit
SO number = 528308
from 65 FSM
Looks like others here. (I agree the rivets are not factor)
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Dana , that 3 is actually an 8
you missed the stamped letter and number in front of the embossed numbers typical of pre 67
I have a vin tag on a 64 thats welded on . Might as well save it also.
welded is normal, the holes were for alignment but people think rivets are supposed to go in there
See post 14. That's what I said. Oh, it's not a 3 it's an 8.
I thought it was an 8 but the FSM did not show an 8 as an option in 65 for Valiant so I thought maybe its a 3?
Note: it shows 4 as Barracuda
Also the FSM (which are never wrong
) shows "2" as Detroit not HamtramckMike, where are you getting your info?
I'm not arguing so much as trying to understand why the FSM would be incorrect on these points
I still think it's been replaced or updatedI thought it was an 8 but the FSM did not show an 8 as an option in 65 for Valiant so I thought maybe its a 3?
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Note: it shows 4 as Barracuda
Also the FSM (which are never wrong
Mike, where are you getting your info?
I'm not arguing so much as trying to understand why the FSM would be incorrect on these points
But interested in the reality, regardless. These cars can be real mysteries
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