86 Dodge Van rim Question

[70SwingerGuy]

So a buddy of mine has this 86 Dodge B250 van and wants to put cooler rims on it, so he bought a set off of a 2010 Dakota thinking they would fit, but he has found that his center hubs on the van are too large for the rims he bought. His hubs are 89.9mm and the Dakotas are smaller. He found this odd, so he did some online research as to why his hubs would be so large and cannot get a straight answer, including some that said that someone put a Ford rear end into it (even so, that wouldnt explain the fronts). It hasnt been modified, his dad owned it for years.
So was this just an oddball option? Is he going to have a hard time finding rims for this size hub? Any recommendation on what he should be looking for? Hes looking for 15" or 16" 5x5.5 with a center bore of 89.9.
Thanks FABO for any info

 

[Kern Dog]

I'd think that a B250 would have an 8 lug pattern.
What is it exactly?

 

[70SwingerGuy]

I know absolutely nothing about dodge vans, Im just relaying what he told me. But I just did a quick look of that particular vehicle online and the pics I see show five lugs in multiple pics.

 

[A56]

I believe he needs wheels from '80-'93. Cool wheels may be hard to find.

 

[MV8]

94-2000 Dodge 1500 pickup (Ram) will have 16x7 with same bc and the bore should be correct, but you may have to do some work to the center caps to clear the hub depending on the wheel or go without the center caps on the front.

 

[70SwingerGuy]

Thanks guys! Much appreciated

 

[70SwingerGuy]

So he updated me.... the 94-2000 wont fit because the center bore is 77.8mm, and the rims he bought thinking they would work are 20" from a 2010 but they turned out to be 77.8 also.
It cant be that he has the only vehicle ever produced with an 89.9 center!

 

[318willrun]

I have an '89 B250. It has aftermarkets but I didn't buy them. They are 5.5 x 5 bolt pattern. I'd think anything that would fit a RC with the same bolt pattern would fit the B van. Lots of aftermarket choices displayed on the RC's.

 

[volaredon]

I'd think that a B250 would have an 8 lug pattern.
What is it exactly?

No a B250 van is still 5 lug unlike D250 pickups.you gotta get to the "B-350" level for 8 lugs in a van.
89.9 MM? HUH? they weren't made metric....
And they were all pretty standard sizes.
You said you bought Dakota rims? They were 6 lug from 91-04.

 

[318willrun]

I'd think that a B250 would have an 8 lug pattern.
What is it exactly?

B250's mostly had a 8.25 rear end too. And as stated, 5 lugs.

 

[A56]

So he updated me.... the 94-2000 wont fit because the center bore is 77.8mm, and the rims he bought thinking they would work are 20" from a 2010 but they turned out to be 77.8 also.
It cant be that he has the only vehicle ever produced with an 89.9 center!

You are correct 89.9 center and the register is what is the difference in some wheels, not the bolt circle.

 

[70SwingerGuy]

No a B250 van is still 5 lug unlike D250 pickups.you gotta get to the "B-350" level for 8 lugs in a van.
89.9 MM? HUH? they weren't made metric....

I think since we are in Canada he is measuring in metric

And they were all pretty standard sizes.
You said you bought Dakota rims? They were 6 lug from 91-04.

He said he bought a set from a 2010

 

[70SwingerGuy]

I have an '89 B250. It has aftermarkets but I didn't buy them. They are 5.5 x 5 bolt pattern. I'd think anything that would fit a RC with the same bolt pattern would fit the B van. Lots of aftermarket choices displayed on the RC's.
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Thanks for the info, he will have to look for Ramcharger rims, he says to say thanks

 

[AJ/FormS]

That happened to me once, with alloy wheels.
I just took them to a machine shop and had them lathe it out to fit.
On another set, also alloy, the holes were so rotten,
I had the shop lathe the holes out larger, then press in a steel ring, then lathe the ring to fit. I just did what had to be done.
This might not work with steel wheels, IDK.

 

[MV8]

It has a register for more support if the lugs were not tight but it is lug centric versus hub. The original wheels do not have perfectly round centers. This is my '86 D100 with around 2002 ram 17x8.5 wheels. I used 5x5.5 to 5x5.5 adapters as spacers to clear the bed which pushed them out past the axle register. The adapters do not use standard lugs and studs so the dodge center caps and lug nuts can't be used on the back. I think I bored the fronts but not on a lathe and have had no vibration issues in 5 years running lug-centric including a tire change and rebalance (using a lug centric balancer adapter versus a cone), but I was very careful in getting the bores concentric since that is how everyone balances wheels now (including older lug centric wheels). A better way to bore is to have the machine shop pilot the cutter off the center of the wheel but don't be concerned about how close the final hole is to the hub register. If you must run bigger bore, look at suzuki vitara, old jeeps, and fords. The bores are bigger than the dodge register but there is no concern about being concentric for balancing.